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So it does look like Pete, Sue and Ginny were the ones who didn't want the proposals and analysis released.
I would prefer seeing Pacifica Five-0 remain a city-run department, but hiding the reasoning behind the decision not to outsource doesn't seem justified.
This may cost Pete and Ginny their seats on Council.
Veddy interesting approach. Will there be an exchange of letters? The bottom-line is that whatever it takes to get that outsourccing info--- all of it including documents, dates, pertinent closed session records, any communication re outsourcing between any councilmember and Rhodes, whatever--- released to the public needs to be done. And done now. Bring the whole reeking, mismanaged mess out in the open. The people deserve full disclosure after such a debacle. And they need to know who did and said what. Let the chips fall where they may.
That outsourcing proposal or some version of it might be the only way to save this town from failure. Outsourcing deserves a full and open consideration.
That is exactly what I said yesterday. Pete the ring leader followed by Sue and Ginny over-rode Len and Mary Ann on this one in a secret closed door session.
It's one last slap in the face by Pete to us ungrateful malcontents.
I'd be satisfied with a public explanation of their decision regarding outsourcing. Saying they can't discuss it because it involves union negotiations or something like that doesn't cut it.
Hutch, Pete's last slap and last laugh on us will be that nice pension (shhh) he's going to collect. He'll be laughing a long time.
I knew Jaqueth would be trouble. Should have never appointed someone who was legally recalled by the people.
Damage control.
Jaquith and Nihart are/were very close. Nihart asked Jaquith to swear her in when she took her council seat. Wonder if she gave her a head's up before throwing her under the bus. Oh, make that a Pacifica PD cruiser.
Ginny Jacquith is one of the most honest people I know and does not need to play any favorites because she is only a place holder, my her wish, until November. If she voted against outsourcing the police, it had to mean there was some type of financial benefit to doing so.
"If she voted against outsourcing the police, it had to mean there was some type of financial benefit to doing so."
You're probably right, but aren't we entitled to know what those benefits were?
Pacifica Index's latest feature, "A Timeline of Police Outsourcing in Pacifca: How a Public Discussion Turned Private" may be of interest to Fix Pacifica readers.
It attempts to trace the history and context of recent developments through source documents.
Then why did Jaqueth vote along with Digre and DeJarnett to keep the whole thing secret from us?
If it's off the table there's no reason to keep it from the people.
Obviously Len and Mary Ann believe that the others are really wrong on this one. And I trust them a hell of a lot more than the other 3.
Pacifica Index now has an excellent time line of this disaster. Seeing the whole thing in chrono order is an eye-opener.
Impossible to tell who voted for what or when but their intent to keep this info from the public is very clear. Very clear. Kudos to Pacifica Index for their work and for speaking out at the last council meeting. Kudos to Stone and Nihart for their letter. The news blackout has been so total that we don't know if they were always for full disclosure or had a change of heart. Regardless, Bravo! Please make it a habit.
With so little information it is easy to jump to conclusions. I want to see everything on this mess. I don't trust any of these people. Have they effed this up so badly that the option, if it was a good one, is no longer available? Too many unanswered question. We are the joke of the county, once again.
Ginny Jaquith is an honorable person. She wouldn't be involved in anything underhanded or unlawful. She just wouldn't. She doesn't live her life that way. She was a perfect choice for an interim council seat but today I wish she hadn't involved herself in the filth of Pacifica politics.
Hutch you don't have enough information.
This City attorney needs to be fired immediatly along with their law firm. The only thing lawyers understand is denero. Heads need to roll!
I don't understand why everyone is so upset? You don't need to know everything.
just another lap around the track in the clown car, pacifica style
Gideon Rubin reports that that Mayor Pro Tem Stone and Councilmember Nihart have issued an open letter calling upon Mayor DeJarnatt as well a
Councilmembers Digre and Jaquith to make the San Mateo County Sheriff and SSF Police Department proposals publicly available.
Jaquith is the wild card on this. I don't care how honorable she has been in the past. She's dancing with the devil's on this one.
anon 634 Lawyers advise clients. They don't hold a gun to their heads and say do it. Wouldn't you think that with 5 reasonably intelligent adults and staff someone would have said a while ago this is a real bad idea? Not until the public and press get stirred up does any of the 5 call a halt. That was the right thing to do, and the smart thing to get out in front of the mess, particularly during an election.
We all owe Gideon Ruben at Patch for blowing the lid off this in July when he posted that the report was ready. Without that we'd still be in the dark.
My little ray of hope was Steve Rhodes. He just proved he is just as bad as council.
Ginny,hasn't learned her lesson she was recalled once.
We can go to the local grade schools and 3rd graders could do a better job.
Every single one of you must go to the next council meeting.
I stand corrected Len has balls.
If we wanted this bullshit we could have kept Cecilia Quick.
Anon804 Your little ray of hope reports to this bunch. His job security depends on them. Watch the antics at a FCS task force meeting to see the pecking order. He's told what to do and what not to do by council. What info to share and what to conceal. Maybe once he's safely retired he'll write one of those tell-all books.
More likely, he'll never want to think or speak of Pacifica and our illustrious Council again.
anon@834 yep, he's a keeper.
While we're piling on,
Did anyone see the letter from Mr. Jansen in the Trib re his wife, Marlies, who has been missing in Linda Mar for weeks? The Jansens have lived in Pac since 1965. He thanks many people for their help and concern but says he never got a call back from city hall after he left a message for the Mayor. For shame! IMHO our Mayor should have called Mr. Jansen first, as soon as the lady went missing. All politics aside, where's his compassion? I think Pete has already left office.
Pacifica, has a mayor? Wow, I wouldn't know that. He doesnt bother to come to council meetings any more!
Rhodes will pay in the end when the city goes bankrupt and his fat pension gets cut!
Just another want to be fat cat stealing tax payer money!
Pete's pension comes from the State Anon 557. But don't worry, the entire Calpers pension system is poised for collapse and we ain't bailin it out.
BTW are these Captia characters getting harder to see or am I getting older?
@756 your point is what? All their pensions (shhh) come from the State through Calpers, Pete's and all other city employees. The majority of the contributions have been made by the employer- that's us. All that cafeteria cash comes in handy for any contributions required of council, don't ya think? The state controller's website says 4 of our 5 councilmembers are enrolled in the pension plan. The reporting year was 2010 so hard to tell who the abstainer was or is. Calpers will survive but future recipients are going to get less and pay for more of it themselves. Bummer!
Ha, evidently the general council for Californians Aware and general council for the Ca Newspapers Publishers Assoc feel this was a definite violation of the Brown Act. And that the outsourcing report had nothing to do with negotiations.
NOW sneaky Pete Dejarnett is claiming he wanted this to go public all along and the Mary Ann and Len were in the wrong by going behind his back.
Oh this is getting good.
Ironically this could result in a bankrupting lawsuit.
CRIMINAL SANCTIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF BROWN ACT:
The district attorney may seek misdemeanor penalties against a member of a body who attends a meeting where action is taken in violation of the Act, and where the member intended to deprive the public of information which the member knew or has reason to know the public was entitled to receive.
Individuals or the district attorney may file civil lawsuits for injunctive, mandatory or declaratory relief, or to void action taken in violation of the Act.
Over at Pacifica Index they are reporting today that city staff has released the two outsourcing proposals. Their source for this news in Jane Northrop. They also report that Ann Ritzma has said that council did indeed turn down the outsourcing idea and discussed it at that infamous August closed session. No mention of the consultant's report being released. Perhaps the report really did qualify for attorney/client privilege. Pacifica Index has now filed a request for a copy of both proposals.
Prior to the recent changes in the Brown Act, council would have had to report to the public during open council session any action or votes taken during closed session. Now, it's completely voluntary. So, when exactly was that heartwarming meeting where they all vowed to uphold the full provisions of the Brown Act regardless of the changes to it? Was it during the same meeting when they forgot to tell us they rejected outsourcing? Was there a grace period? We must assume this was all done with legal advice.
Time to shop for some new legal advice. Their attorney is supposed to keep these dopes out of trouble, not get them in it. Or, did she?
hahaha oh Pete you know very well that spaces in the life raft are limited. It's always been first come, first saved.
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