· Pacificans for
Highway 1 Alternatives,
· Fair Rents 4 Pacifica,
· Pacifica Peace
People, &
· Pacifica Climate
Committee
invite you to:
Build the
Beloved Community
...a community planning event to share
our dreams for Pacifica and beyond,…
Sunday, January 15
2:30-4:30 pm
Brief presentations by representatives of• PH1A• Fair Rents 4 Pacifica• Pacifica Peace People• Pacifica Climate CommitteeDiscussion in break out groups. Reconvening of all present to discuss
… beginning
to build an organization that will further our work of building a more
progressive, resilient and compassionate community in these critical
times.
Pacifica Coastside Museum
(Little Brown Church)
1850 Francisco Blvd.
Light refreshments will be served.
Posted by Steve Sinai
83 comments:
The regular folks of Ptown should attend and listen to these people. They're planning the future demise of Pacifica. Count on it. A "gathering" of forces imposing their will on the masses. Scary.
Dear Devious Deirdre: game plan
1. say “beloved community” at all council meetings when you don’t know what is going on. Happy talk works.
2. no highway improvements. Force everyone to take the bus or be late to work.
3. peace everywhere! Hugs for all.
4. free rent but build no affordable housing. Oh, maybe RVs on our streets for homeless folks.
5. ignore real issues like beach blvd. Hold more meetings. See item #1.
What a bunch of sore losers and babies in Pacifica! I haven't seen this may sour grapes since the drought in Napa! Guess the election process only works when your candidate wins. Maybe Deidre and Trump should vacate their seats in order to make you whiners happy. Not. BTW, if the elections were actually illegal, why aren't you doing something about it? There are remedies available for truly illegal actions.
On a final note, Mary Ann didn't have to play the dangerous election game she played. There was no reason for her to drop out, or threaten to drop out, of the election. It was a non partisan election. Period. She gambled and lost. That's politics folks...
Peter Loeb, knows what best for Pacifica.
He has been showing us what is best for the past 40 years.
Deirdre Memo: political IOUs now DUE. "Beloved community" groups have a laundry list. I would even expect your homies at Pacifica Beach Coalition want you to become their official access to city council and the Coalition certainly wants taxpayer subsidy payments to continue.
As for the grouch at 9:15AM-- vapors? Or did prior posts hit a nerve? Anyway, 915 is a diversion from the main debate: what will Deirdre be told to do?
The chill of the vainglorious Donald Trump seems to be reaching it's cold hand out to Pacifica. Caring about our fellow citizens and peace everywhere is now a bad thing with Fix Pacifican's? Maybe it's time to work together locally to bring about positive change. Personally, I don't know if I support all the actions that may be put forth at today's meeting, however, willing to listen and see if there are some ways of coming together for the good of the city and her citizens.
"On a final note, Mary Ann didn't have to play the dangerous election game she played. There was no reason for her to drop out, or threaten to drop out, of the election. It was a non partisan election."
That is incorrect. Martin going after the San Mateo County Democrats endorsement turned the election from non-partisan to partisan. At that point Mary Ann became ineligible to actively run for council. Martin guaranteed herself a spot on council by a bureaucratic maneuver rather than letting Pacifica voters decide.
All real Americans are home watching playoff football. Only Morning Lovestar and her hippy entourage are at a meeting! Beware Pacifica.
"That is incorrect."
Right back at ya, 203...
From the National League of Cities:
"Municipal election systems are determined by the nature of the council members' constituency and by the presence or absence of party labels on the ballot. With regard to the latter feature, there are two types of ballots for city council members. In partisan elections, the party affiliation of the candidate is indicated on the ballot, whereas in nonpartisan elections it is not. According to a 2001 survey, 77 percent of the responding cities have nonpartisan elections, and 23 percent have partisan elections.
What could have possibly been construed as a violation of the Hatch Act would have been Nihart asking for the endorsement of the SMCD and using that in her campaign, not one of her opponents doing so.
You are so wrong. And if you continue to insist that you are right, please cite the actual text from the Hatch Act that proves your point/case.
Nagging question. More about what is Martin than anything else. You think Nihart was done in by unintended consequences or did Martin know what she was setting in motion? Historically, she wasn't the first to seek that endorsement. In fact, at-risk candidates have struck deals before to avoid the issue. Pacifica politics is a blood sport, but I don't know that Martin is in that league. Chilling if she is.
@2:32 PM -
Fluke in federal law forces Bay Area official to end election bid
@2:32 PM - why not back up your statement with your name? Or is it the case that you know you're wrong and that's why you want to remain anonymous.
Nihart was cleared by the OSD to run, even after the Dems endorsed Martin!
The Martin Crew just couldn't accept this, so Dan Stegink pestered the OSD numerous times about what a travesty this was and to rexamine their decision
During the rexam period, Diedre and her crew made every attempt possible to mention her democratic endorsement whenever and wherever possible to make the race as partisan as they could.
OSD withdrew their support on appeal.
Nihart was STILL legally entitled to run, but might have suffered employment consequences. She decided it wouldn't be worth the $20K or so to mount a legal defense just to keep her position at work.
Martin ran a very honorable and noble campaign and she and Stegink should be very proud of how they conducted themselves!
Illegitimate President in DC and Illegitimate Council person in Pacifica.
Employing deception and political shenanigans, shameless people have stolen our votes and wounded our democracy nationally and locally.
While I wouldn't be surprised if it was Dan who appealed to the OSD, not sure I would definitively blame him. Sometimes the things that seem most obvious are the easiest things to get wrong.
On the other hand, the fact that the appeal was done anonymously demonstrates that the person appealing knew it was a sleazy tactic.
401, oh brother the last line of what you said is a joker.
Elections repeatedly obstructed by NIMBIES in this City are never "honorable and noble".
Meantime, 232, your argument about City Council political party affiliation disclosure is a bit of a stretch. The Fall 2016 ballots (I'm looking at the sample ballot) shows no candidate party affiliation.
Also, near the election at a City Council meeting, our City Attorney clearly stated the requirements to run for our City Council amounted to: you must be an adult resident of Pacifica-- that's it!
Then, the City Council candidate endorsement from the SM County Democrats, believed to knowingly have interfered with our City election, makes no sense whatsoever.
So, how did that conspiracy against Mary Ann's candidacy work? I'm sure you know and can tell us.
Here's what's sleazy: accusing Deirdre Martin and her supporters of a conspiracy with no evidence.
1012 "Sleazy", really? Interesting how the series of events to take down Mary Anne's city council election candidacy didn't happen isolated and without a strategic plan. Clearly, it was not a project enacted by a single source.
Hence the high probability is, it is what you claim: a conspiracy.
Stinky's website made a several week meal of recording and updating the NIMBY plotted attack on Mary Anne's candidacy. You know where to find Stinky's website.
Actually events like Mary Ann endorsing and being a very vocal about wanting Harmony @ 1 and going to the ground breaking really pissed off her base.
That was Nancy Hall's green project and even Nancy, turned her back on Mary Ann.
Pure speculation with absolutely no evidence of a "strategic plan" or conspiracy or "plotted attack." Credibility = zero.
A well attended event (at least 80 people crowded into the LBC), with the attendees working collaboratively to share their vision for Pacifica, based on the teachings of Martin Luther King. No fixies there, but Sue Vaterlaus did participate.
You're right. Nancy Hall and her fellow cult members did turn on Mary Anne. This is why they hatched (pun intended) the partisan controversy and then continued to shovel fuel on the fire in order to alter the election outcome. These people have no shame and will continue to justify their faux-enviro, NOBY agenda even in the face of the insolvency of our city, perversion of our democracy and much suffering by those outside of their cult. They have successfully installed an illegitiment majority puppet vote on Council to uphold their mantra....... "I've got mine, screw everyone else." Deirdre's got to go.
817, ah, when you disclose 1) your name, and 2) the players who fueled the conspiracy we'll be able to connect all the dots, according to the Stinky website timeline. Of course, if you provide the timeline (as you know it), that will be even better.
820, we're living with the 35 year structural damage and economic failure of your coalition's "vision" for this City-- what would be the point of attending such a NIMBY meeting?
PS: You reference "the teachings of Martin Luther King", whereas your tactics more reflect the antics of Donald J. Trump. BTW, how many of you are African Americans? (That's what I thought.)
Pacifica needs functional space where people can live, work, achieve a better sense of City protection, and drive outside the City less.
But the sponsors of your lopsided coalition:
1. Pacificans for Highway Alternatives - (code for really no alternatives, just NO to fixing necessary traffic congestion).
2. Fair Rents 4 Pacificans (code for degrading existing properties with a rent control alternative, rather than building needed affordable housing).
3. Pacifica Peace People (neutral impact, possibly voting support).
4. Pacifica Climate Committee (Managed retreat, goodbye Pacifica renters and homeowners, Sharp Park next).
Did you forget the "No to building a new 21st library" group, and others? During the last election season, one NIMBY verbal "alternative" to the library bond was fixing our City roads. Was that discussed at your meeting? Anything positive come from the meeting, or all as expected: City teardown.
Over decades much of our City land has transitioned to empty space while our City economy continues to decline and limp along-- while Pacificans must drive to work, because industry and business districts are non-existent or lag.
Positive, balanced economic solutions for this City exist, but they are not coming from your core coalition- are they.
There was no point in attending the LBC - Pacifica's Future planning meeting. It's just the usual big circle jerk dominated by NOBY's and NIMBY's spouting their repetitive and self serving feel good bumper stickers with no basis in reality or deference to facts.
Twenty years later nothing will be changed, city will be further behind (or non-existent) and evil developers and greedy realtors are the reason for all that's wrong in Pacifica.
funny note: I came across an old election flyer by deJarnutt stating emphatically that he supports an improved hiway 1 and the building of a new 21st century library. Same old circle jerk. It never ends.
If any member of the Woo-Woo Four would like to chime in and provide a single example of a non-trail project they've supported, I'd like to hear about it, because so far...
quarry: NO
library: NO
palmetto street improvements: NO
widening of Route 1: NO
apartments at fish and bowl: NO
senior center @ back of valley: NO
project next to fog city java: NO
food trucks at Linda Mar beach: NO
expansion of Holiday Inn: NO
development of "the rock": NO
teacher housing at Oddstad: NO
Calson field development: OH HELL NO
4-unit Pedro point motel: SEE ABOVE (NO)
housing at Spanky's: NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
If only the right project came along, though, I'm sure they'd be all for it!
The only right project for these idiots is giving our city land to GGNRA or an expansion of one of their own hovels.
Lancelle, Loeb, Deirdre, Keener, Digre, Bray, Shoemaker, Verby, Hall, et al are the gatekeepers and they are way smarter than all of you peons.
I went to the meeting yesterday. It was depressing because you were supposed to describe what your dream for Pacifica was, but the ground rules were that there were to be no judgments about what you said, as in everybody's dream was to be respected. All well and good, however, realtors were constantly demonized by the event organizers, so this common courtesy didn't extend to them I guess? Apparently the Beloved Community doesn't include the people who helped you buy your home. Not sure who else will find themselves on the wrong side of the Beloved Community Wall. Spouses and friends of realtors?
In the end, it was the usual suspects backslapping each other about how wonderful and right they all are about everything. In the end, nothing was accomplished except for the gathering of an email list which I suppose was the reason for the whole affair.
Marijuana dispensary: YES
Anonymous 2:35 pm About how many people were there and did Bridget Duffy collect any funds to march on Washington?
expansion of Holiday Inn: NO
They even handed off the football to Todd Bray on this one!
Todd, file an appeal!
Good one, Steve.
Maybe the greenhouses can go in the quarry.
2:35, we saw on a national scale what happens when you mock, belittle and ignore people with viewpoints that differ from your own.
If the No Nothings want to turtle up and attack anyone who doesn't think like them, let them. Their support peaked back in the Keener days and they only managed a victory with Martin on a technicality, despite a fairly decent organizational push. It's been downhill from those days.
The group of people that are tired of nothing getting done in this town is growing. 2018 is going to be point at which the pendulum swings. Adios to the "Woo-Woo" Crew.
"About how many people were there and did Bridget Duffy collect any funds to march on Washington?"
The place was full, so 70-80. Duffy was there, but I don't know if she managed to grift anyone.
The news is sooo depressing these days and sure to get worse. I want some of what 353 is smoking. Woo-woo.
Here is Mary Ann Nihart's explanation of why she had to resign.
Nihart Resignation Letter
What's that black splotch on the letter? Squashed bugs? Compared to the Trumpopocolypse we're trapped in, who gives a flying fart about Pacifica's never-ending nonsense? She was out of gas anyhow, although I guess she did fill a seat and kept a nimby from it for awhile.
I told you, dawg. I told you that Martin & Stegink ran a proud and noble campaign!
The Woo-Woo Crew now has less than two years to block everything they can in Pacifica, because 2018 is around the corner. Just hold on, everyone. Big surprises to come!
Here is Dan Stegink, in his own words, lying his ass off to prevent Pacificans from exercising their right to vote for Nihart:
YouTube Link
In my opinion, it's important for those who don't read NextDoor to see the sort of posts Dan Stegink was making in public around the time of the election. There are dozens like these from him. Also, when directly asked if he lodged a complaint with the Office of Special Council, Stegink called the question "a red herring" and refused to answer.
link
Frankly I'm tired of hearing people say "It might not be legal, but that's the way we've always done it in Pacifica". Nihart broke the law, and she paid the price. She can say she's done nothing wrong but she lied to voters until a WEEK before the election.
-Dan Stegink
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Not only did Nihart break the law, she lied about it for over a month and half, dismissing news reports as "gossip and rumors".
-Dan Stegink
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To be clear, Nihart didn't take the high road at all... instead she hired Sam Singer (aka Dr. Smear), the most expensive spin doctor in San Francisco to attack her opponent and perpetrate a fictitious backstory of persecution.
-Dan Stegink
Here's Stegink pretending to be an attorney: LOL
Pacifica is very very lucky that a pretend attorney like Dan Stegink is on our side and we didn't accidentally break the law by exercising our right to vote. Yay, Dan!
Deirdre Martin is surrounded by an incredibly proud and noble group of supporters who behaved with respect and dignity!
It looks as if Stegink was a very effective "attorney" at that. After all, he convinced, Mary Ann, Sinai and others that the actions of another candidate (i.e., Deidre) could make Mary Ann ineligible to run/campaign for office. That is an interpretation of the Hatch Act that only a self-serving attorney, self-serving candidate and someone who runs a forum under a false pretense (i.e., that it is actually okay to post anonymously on Fix Pacifica) could make. It defies common sense and the true intent of the law and as such, has absolutely no merit. If the Hatch Act had any relevance at all it would be in the situation where federal employee/contractor Nihart sought the endorsement of a political party and used it in her campaign. And even that is arguable. Those who insist that Mary Ann had to drop out of the race/campaign for actions Deidre and/or the SMCDC undertook are living in your own private Idaho, and unfortunately, you took Stegink's fake bait. The only thing that was "Hatch'd" here was a plot to get Mary Ann out of the race assuming Pacifica is a Ship of Fools. Can you imagine the high-fives and jubilation from the Deidre crowd that you Mary Ann and many of you actually bought this nonsense. (And Mr. Sinai, I asked you to supply the actual text from the Hatch Act, not a link to an opinion article). Uh oh! Bet this won't be posted now!
Wow! I think I'll run for City council next time as Anonymous and plant some ridiculous story that will get all of the other candidates to drop out of the race. This is great! A guaranteed win. What a bunch of suckers! Only in Pacifica...
BTW, Mr. Wagner, thanks for posting Mary Ann's letter. Unfortunately, although I read it several times, I have absolutely no idea what point(s) she is making or what legal issues she is raising. Perhaps I need to use a decoder ring. I understand that Deidre and Stegink are giving them away.
Um, sir, this is a McDonald's drive-thru. I only asked if you wanted fries with that.
The point of Mary Ann's letter is that there is no evidence of a conspiracy or that Deirdre's campaign did anything at all, and that the Hatch Act counsel is who said Mary Ann either had to drop out of the race or quit her job.
Outrage! Some idiots were done in by some other idiots. Spin the idiot wheel and pick your Pacifica City Council! Why is it that the most vicious fights are always over the most meager rewards?
"The point of Mary Ann's letter is that there is no evidence of a conspiracy or that Deirdre's campaign did anything at all"
That was not at all the point of the letter.
"The point of Mary Ann's letter is that there is no evidence of a conspiracy or that Deirdre's campaign did anything at all"
That was not at all the point of the letter. On the contrary, Nihart explained that she was forced to withdraw after anonymous complaints were lodged with the Hatch Act Unit. It only makes sense that those complaints came from Martin's campaign and/or Martin's supporters. Who else would do it?
Mary Ann's letter says that anonymous complaints were made to the Hatch Act Unit. That's all there is. No names, no info about number of complaints. Based on this very minimal info, you accuse Martin's campaign or supporters of a conspiracy. Mary Ann's letter provides no evidence of a conspiracy or that Martin's campaign or supporters did anything at all.
"Mary Ann's letter provides no evidence of a conspiracy or that Martin's campaign or supporters did anything at all."
Who else would have done it?
That multiple people filed anonymous complaints does suggest there was some kind of behind-the-scenes, organized effort, ie, "conspiracy", to force Nihart out of the race and guarantee Martin a spot on Council.
How do you know that "multiple people" filed anonymous complaints?
Nihart grew tired of the unrelenting stupidity that is Pacifica and took herself out. Became a martyr to the cause. And as a parting gift, she gave you all a controversy that will not die. Kind of a political Chia Pet. Ever tried to kill one of those things? Now, she's on to greater glory. Who knows? They're hiring in DC and she already knows how to hold her nose.
11:30, read the Nihart letter. It refers to complaints. With an 's' at the end.
Right. Complaints. Plural. Not complainants plural. No one knows number of complaints and number of people complaining. Is it 2? 3? We know nothing except complaints, plural.
Maybe it was 1 person making repeated complaints. Probably it was someone who had it in for Mary Ann, but not necessarily a Deirdre Martin supporter.
Oh please. Deirdre supporters jumped all over this. Cindy Kaufman made a very lawerly plea for everyone to just come together and vote. Deirdre was peppering the cut. These guys knew what was going on and couldn't have been more thrilled that Mary Anne was a technical knock-out. They knew what "starved for attention" Dan was up to and enjoyed every minute of it.
What 2:45 said. 5:59 is mistaking their imaginary world for reality again.
And then there is the theory that Mary Ann whistleblew on herself. Why would she do it? Part and parcel of a convoluted scheme to manipulate the SMCDC into dropping their support of Deidre. Mary Ann, being the uber savvy politician, as well as drama queen extraordinaire, knows darn well that a democratic endorsement of anyone other than herself in any race spells trouble for her downstream as she ascends the political food chain. Yes, democrats definitely do eat their young. Republicans, on the other hand, would never eat their young. They would sell them, however.
The more I read the comments from the Anon trying to convince people that Martin and her supporters had nothing to do with Hatch Act complaints, the more convinced I am that Stegink was behind it. I've seen enough of his comments on Nextdoor and the articles on his website to know how intentionally manipulative and deceptive he is.
5:59 knows what's up.
Notably absent was any statement from Deirdre Martin herself about the situation nor was there any public disavowal of the serial complaints filed by these purported "lone wolves."
The Martin campaign knew exactly what shitty stuff their supporters were up to (um, hello, they even passed it along to Maybury to post on Riptide!), but because they were benefiting from it, they didn't lift a finger to stop it.
The silence says it all.
Even if Martin asked her supporters not to file Hatch Act complaints, they still would have done it.
You're right, Steve, but I think it says a lot that they didn't even bother.
Even if Martin told her supporters not to lie, cheat, and steal, they still would have done it. Because, well, they're bad people. We know this because they are Martin supporters. End of discussion.
9:16 PM, I can see you're putting on a brave face while dealing with your LSD overdose. Let me catch you up with the facts:
We know Martin supporters behaved poorly because after the OCS ruled that Nihart could run, they wouldn't accept this and bombarded the office with complaints. The existence of the complaints themselves created the Hatch Act problem for Nihart.
We know that Martin supporters are "bad people" because this was a systematic and coordinated voter suppression effort; the evidence of which are the simultaneous online postings of instructions as to how file these complaints against Nihart that appeared on Pacifica.shitty, Riptide, and Next Door.
We know that the whole lot of Martin supporters are morally challenged because Deirdre Martin, someone from her campaign, or any single one of her supporters, could have disavowed the actions of their supporters in their voter-suppression efforts, but they made the conscious choice not to.
We know that Martin and her crew don't have an ethical bone in their bodies because instead of disavowing any of this, Martin bravely stayed silent while her campaign coordinator issued a press release that said, "Don't blame us for these arcane laws!" while taking full advantage of them.
Welcome back to reality, 9:16 PM. I hope these facts help clear your hallucinatory fog.
8:38 "...the evidence of which are the simultaneous online postings of instructions as to how file these complaints against Nihart that appeared on Pacifica.shitty, Riptide, and Next Door."
I regularly read all three sites listed and have never seen what you describe. In fact, I just looked at pacifica.city and skimmed every article on the topic and found zip. Please provide a link to any "online postings of instructions as to how to file these complaints...". Barring that, we can all assume you (probably Stechbart) are making stuff up.
Stegink removed all his election-related comments from Nextdoor right after the election was held. Why?
As far as I know, he was the only person to do that.
Why? He didn't want to be held accountable for his statements.
This election shined the light on the NOBY faux-enviros like never before.
They are complete hypocrites, liars, manipulators and lack fundamental ethics and morality.
They will say and do anything to forward their "I got mine, screw everybody else" agenda. Next time Loeb, Lancelle, Maykle, Digre, Keener, Deirdre, Bray, deJarnutt, Batallio, Kaufman, Goodall, Adams, Verby, et al, try to justify saying NO in the name of what's good for Pacifica and pity the poor little critters....TAKE HEED!
Remember who you are REALLY dealing with. Very bad and selfish people.
Ya got nothing. No facts, just name-calling. Strike 3, you're out.
The BELOVED COMMUNITY will be built upon a bedrock of voter disenfranchisement and its streets will be paved with...well...um...they'll be paved with dreams, okay?! Just imagine they're paved.
We can meet at the Saint NIMBY Pub for hearty tankards of NO as we celebrate the day's mass execution of realtors. At the stroke of midnight, off we'll stumble to our tents where city hall once stood, to curl up amongst our rags and dream of dancing Priuses, but not before we take a crap in our own hats.
Now, now, Jack. You should know better. ALL viewpoints are welcome in the Beloved Community (tm). That is, as long as they're the agreed upon viewpoints developed during the appropriate break-out group sessions. If not, geez, I'd love to help you, but I'm going to need you to get up against the wall over there.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Buncha do-nothings.
The problem in Pathetica isn't Stegink, Deidre, her supporters, the old PSD/FOP crowd, the nobies/nimbys or the pro development crowd, for that matter. The problem is with the voters of Pacifica. The people here are mostly apathetic to the goings on in this town and as important as these matters are to some of us, they just can't be bothered. The 2002 CC recall campaign proved that one decisively. Perhaps they're too busy trying to pay their inflated mortgages or paying for their children's education. If you ask most of them who Peebles is they would say, "Isn't that the little kid on the Flintstones?" Sorry gang. Talk amongst yourselves... Truly.
You guys are hilarious. And sad. All 1 or 2 anons and the known standard-bearers. Nihart will find another stage and Martin will have many fans. Pacifica will not change because most Pacificans don't want it to change--or at least don't want it to change in the manner hawked on here and elsewhere. It's not apathy, it's a choice and a preference. And as valid as yours.
Pacifica Beach Coalition is a Deirdre fan! As predicted earlier, city council next monday night will assign a formal council liaison to Deridre's homies at PBC. Instructions: keep city $$ flowing to PBC.
12:21 Thank you for acknowledging us peasants with your bold "The truth is in the middle!" pablum clap-trap. You really put your neck out there, didn't you? Yes, yes, you're above all this petty nonsense, and yet...here you are, posting with the worst of us.
Horrors! Pacifica Beach Coalition is such an awful group. Radical commie pinko enviro terrists.
327 Noblesse oblige.
come on Beach Coalition likes the money... if they engineer their member deirdre to be council rep and keep the money turned on, they are smarter than resource center, sanchez art and chamber...
14 comments later and still no evidence to back up the latest lie about, "the simultaneous online postings of instructions as to how file these complaints against Nihart that appeared on Pacifica.shitty, Riptide, and Next Door."
That's the fix Pacifica way, say a lie, act as if it's true, and when challenged, cough and mutter, "Why did Stegink delete his nextdoor posts?" and move on to the next lie.
I looked through Riptide for half an hour and couldn't find any mention of what is claimed. It's just unadultrated BS, made up to intentionally fool the easily fooled.
1038 Fool the easily fooled you say?? Welcome to America 2017! Pacifica has another goofy enviro on council and America has Adolf. If we're lucky, very very lucky, he'll just be another Sylvio Berlusconi...embarrassing, corrupt and harmless. Of course, nasty old Sylvio never had the power to move markets, march Armies, topple economies. And he never had nukes.
Deirdre Martin is no problem!
"Show me the comments that were deleted. If you can't, they never existed!"
Okay man, whatever you say.
"Show me the comments that were deleted. If you can't, they never existed!"
LOL. Classic Stegink logic.
Where's Madonna and her F-bombs when you need her?
So the new claim is that the postings were deleted from Riptide, Pacifica.city and Nextdoor? First of all, I don't think Maybury ever deletes old posts, (it's possible Stegink did from Pacifica.city, I have no way of knowing), but more importantly, I've never even heard the claim before yesterday. Can you find any reference on FixPacifica or anywhere else? Surely somebody would have mentioned it at the time! Because I suspect the whole idea was made up yesterday. And as a refresher, here is the claim I'm calling bunk:
"...the evidence of which are the simultaneous online postings of instructions as to how file these complaints against Nihart that appeared on Pacifica.shitty, Riptide, and Next Door."
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