Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Global warming vs. world economic recession


Science, ideology, and immediate capital interests-- who wins?  

Global warming doesn't exist, really!
From The New York Times/Science, 12/7/11.  "Global warming has become perhaps the most complicated issue facing world leaders. Warnings from the scientific community are becoming louder, as an increasing body of science points to rising dangers from the ongoing buildup of human-related greenhouse gases — produced mainly by the burning of fossil fuels and forests. Global emissions of carbon dioxide jumped by the largest amount on record in 2010, upending the notion that the brief decline during the recession might persist through the recovery. Emissions rose 5.9 percent in 2010, according to an analysis by the Global Carbon Project, an international collaboration of scientists. The increase solidified a trend of ever-rising emissions that scientists fear will make it difficult, if not impossible, to forestall severe climate change in coming decades. However, the technological, economic and political issues that have to be resolved before a concerted worldwide effort to reduce emissions can begin have gotten no simpler, particularly in the face of a global economic slowdown.

I'm resting my brain, thank you.
For almost two decades, the United Nations has sponsored global talks, known as the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, an international treaty signed by 194 countries in 1992 to cooperatively discuss global climate change and its impact. The conferences operate on the principle of consensus, meaning that any of the participating nations can hold up an agreement. In recent years, the meetings have often ended in disillusionment. The conflicts and controversies discussed are monotonously familiar: the differing obligations of industrialized and developing nations, the question of who will pay to help poor nations adapt, the urgency of protecting tropical forests and the need to rapidly develop and deploy clean energy technology.

At this year’s meeting, which began on Nov. 28, delegates from 194 nations gathered in Durban, South Africa, to try to advance, if only incrementally, the world’s response to intensifying climate disasters. But expectations were low. The negotiating process itself has been under fire from some quarters, including the poorest nations who believe their needs are being neglected in the fight among the major economic powers. Criticism has also come from a relatively small but vocal band of climate-change skeptics, many of them sitting members of the United States Congress, who doubt the existence of human influence on the climate and ridicule international efforts to deal with it. But scientists warned that the squabbling served only to delay actions that must be taken to reduce climate-altering emissions and to improve vulnerable nations’ ability to respond to the changes they say are surely coming."  Read much more.. its the New York times after all.

Reference cross-check
"Global warming is not slowing down",  Science News 12/5/11
For the ultra savvy, and  those who don't read.  ABC News, 4/22/09 video

Posted by Kathy Meeh

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

The United Nations is a useless organization. Get the UN out of the United States and the United States out of the UN.

EXCLUSIVE: A state-of-the-art computer and software system that was touted as the "cornerstone” of a United Nations-wide effort to bring groundbreaking reform to its bloated and stodgy Secretariat is now officially one of the organization’s foremost technological failures.

It is a humiliating black eye for Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who is identified as the driving force behind the $315 million -- if you believe official figures -- fiasco.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/12/06/united-nations-failed-computer-system-highlights-bloat-that-defines-secretarys/#ixzz1fyMANNSP

Anonymous said...

Thank you Rep Walsh. Get the UN out of the United States.

"It is an insult to United States sovereignty," he added, "that the U.N. would be entertaining such measures while enjoying this country's hospitality at its headquarters in New York City. It is the greatest irony, and perhaps the pinnacle of hypocrisy, for the United Nations to be discussing any treaty that might threaten our Second Amendment, because it has been the United States, with its citizen soldiers and our constitutional right to keep and bear arms that has come to the world's rescue not once, but twice in global conflicts.

Read more here:http://news.yahoo.com/ccrkba-applauds-walsh-legislation-withhold-united-nations-funding-003508035.html

Kathy Meeh said...

Yeah, well the science and humanity are against you, right-wing fascist fanatic Anon 1121, 1130, same person.

Anonymous said...

Ms. Boxer urged the delegates to take strong action and said the United States was taking steps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions through regulation of factories and vehicles. She said that evidence of dangerous climate change was growing by the day and blasted those who denied it.
Read more here:
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/on-climate-change-a-gloat-and-a-warning/?ref=unitednations

A List of 115 Dead Scientists… Assassinated?
By Eddie Sage on 16 November 2011 in blog with 37 Comments
Read more here:
http://majortrend.tv/4436/a-list-of-115-dead-scientists-assassinated/?mid=5459

Anonymous said...

In one section, the document calls for developed countries to help poorer countries with "finance, technology and capacity building" so they can "adapt to and mitigate climate change" while helping eliminate poverty. Another section provides that developing countries should receive an amount of money equal to the amount "developed countries spend on defense, security and warfare."

Yet the document also calls for a guaranteed end to warfare altogether -- for the sake of curbing climate change.

One section, noting that "conflict-related activities emit significant greenhouse gas emissions," calls on all parties to "cease destructive activities" like warfare -- and then channel the money that would have been spent on war and other defense projects toward "a common enemy: climate change."

The document also asserts the "rights of mother earth," a concept that environmental activists have been pushing for.

The draft report, which strings together proposals from various working groups, quickly raised alarm among climate change skeptics.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/10/un-floats-global-climate-court-to-enforce-emissions-rules/#ixzz1g9paVgkn

Anonymous said...

Contributing $4,452,585 to Democrats in 2008 (around $1 million to Obama) was mere pocket change for what it can reap from scams like cap and trade disguised as an environmental plan. The scheme was devised. GS helped write it. The House passed it and sent it to the Senate. Unless stopped, it will transfer more of our wealth to corporate polluters and Wall Street on top of all they've stolen so far from derivatives fraud and the imploded housing and other bubbles. And Goldman will lead the way finding new ways to do it until there's nothing left to extract.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14297

Stephen Lendman is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization. He lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

Anonymous said...

UN Calls For Eco-Fascist World Government At Durban Summit

International Climate Court of Justice” would force western nations to pay “climate debt”

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, December 9, 2011
- The treaty calls for the west to achieve a 50% CO2 emissions reduction within the next eight years, a feat that would completely bankrupt the global economy and spark a new great depression, as well as a “more than 100%” reduction by 2050, which presumably could only be accomplished by killing billions of humans to prevent them from exhaling carbon dioxide.

“So, no motor cars, no coal-fired or gas-fired power stations, no aircraft, no trains. Back to the Stone Age, but without even the right to light a carbon-emitting fire in your caves,” writes Monckton.

- The text calls for a 2 degree Celsius drop in global temperatures, which as Monckton points out “would kill hundreds of millions” and herald a new ice age.

- The reduction in CO2 concentration the text calls for would actually begin to kill all plant life and trees on the planet because they need levels of carbon dioxide above 210 ppmv to survive.

- All military forces would be abolished because they contribute to climate change. Presumably the United Nations would then take on the role of world army to police the globe.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/un-calls-for-eco-fascist-world-government-at-durban-summit.html

Steve Sinai said...

OK, that's enough of the wing-nut stuff for now. Nobody's allowed to hijack the blog.

Anonymous said...

Why does Kathy insist on playing "poke the monkey" with the tea baggers? If she'd stick to Pacifica information, there'd be less of this garbage.

Kathy Meeh said...

Anonymous (312), you're entitled to you anonymous opinion, and I admire to a lesser extent your ability to accept ongoing false information assaults with impunity.

Some of the articles I post occur as the result of repeated blog comments. This was one. Without a challenge to false comments and links posted as credible information, I believe conspiracies and factless spin would rule (continue and swamp this blog)-- and, that includes far right, far left exaggerated propaganda, inside or outside Pacifica.

BTW, isn't your use of the "tea bagger" slur designed to inflame those who affiliate with the Tea Party? Are such slurs also what you mean by "polk the monkey"?

From my view, I think its unfortunate that you are unable to focus on the present and future implications of global warming without a "this includes Pacifica" article subtitle.

Anonymous said...

Meeh, "polk the monkey"?? Appreciate the poke at Polk. Maybe it was an opposition campaign slur? James Knox Polk was our 11th Prez. He knew what he had to do, quietly accomplished his agenda, left a truly impressive legacy, and is known to historians as one of our least known Presidents of real consequence.
The right leader at the right time. Love it when that happens.

Kathy Meeh said...

Anon (625), just a typo (I make lots of them). You still didn't explain your reference to "poke the monkey", your mean-spirited Tea Party slur, or why you are lost in tangents and unable to focus on-topic.

Anonymous said...

I just visited the United Nations website. Maybe you should too. Agenda 21 is an important subject with the united nations that was implemented in 1992. What it really is about is taking money from developed nations and giving it to the United Nations. If you doubt this go look for yourself. It is all in black and white print. Local governments , like pacifica, are told to do their part by raising the cost of living and owning property to the point of literally stealing any wealth a family may have. It is there. Take off the blinders. Ignore Meeh and the other enviro wackos who will attack and name call to scare away the truth.

Anonymous said...

Meeh, it wasn't my reference and I'm not mean spirited. This anon is just a fan of James Knox Polk
amused by your typo. Relax.

Steve Sinai said...

"Poke the monkey" means you keep giving the crazies reasons to post. By responding to every nutty comment, you're letting them know that someone takes them seriously, so they keep posting. It's the same as feeding the trolls.

Didn't Al Bundy go to Polk High?

Anonymous said...

Yes Mr. Sinai, Al went to the made-up Polk High in Chicago. BMOC, star football player. And then he met Peg. Don't know where Al went but Peg rolls with the Sons of Anarchy on Tuesday nights. Al would not be surprised.

Kathy Meeh said...

"Ignore Meeh and the other enviro wackos who will attack and name call to scare away the truth."

Anon (925), now science and the entire world government association "wackos" disagree with the 18th century version of "truth" mythology you and a few others have bought into.

Anon (937) easy to confuse you Anons in a series. And, thanks Steve for the "poke the monkey" clarification. Some etched ideas don't seem to respond to avoidance as suggested by Anon (312)-- that's why I posted this comprehensive article of reliable re-post sources with pictures.