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"It may
be called Highway 1, but the issue of whether to widen an existing
bottleneck between Fassler and Reina del Mar has been around for at
least a couple of decades.
Yes folks, the current plan was the "compromise," although many people either forgot that, or were not here at the time. The original plan had overcrossings and major freeway elements. The Calera Creek Parkway plan was actually engineered by an environmentally minded city employee, Tim Molinare. He was not interested in the Caltrans' plan and worked endlessly to advocate for a less intrusive concept. One that would help improve traffic flow and periodic congestion and ensure safe access for fire trucks during accidents and other backups." Read article.
Submitted by Bob Hutchinson
Note: photograph from Ligonier organization/R.C. Sproul Ministries.
Posted by Kathy Meeh
26 comments:
Bravo, Elaine, for the historical perspective and the common sense approach. The questions you raise deserve answers but that in no way diminishes the need for a structural solution to the traffic congestion on that short stretch of highway whether by widening or grade separation. Seems like the latest round of the debate has lacked a moderator. How cunning of Pacifica's elected officials to create such a leadership vacuum. Could they be more irrelevant?
Love the graphic, Ms. Meeh.
The no group against highway 1 and everything being built in town, won't compromise. They need to win. The first lawsuit was tossed out of court. The second one will probably get tossed out of court also. Will these cockroaches go away, no they will file another lawsuit and try to get the city council and caltrans to give in.
The city should counter sue and go after them for legal fees.
A very strong commentary from Elaine. Very interesting and informative. So the current widening project was the result of a Pacifica environmentalist fighting Caltrans and winning? Great, so they got what they wanted. Now let's get it built.
224 I can tell you're someone who paints with big, broad strokes but has the city council taken a public, official position on the widening? Do they know they have?
Question: is there a time limit within which a city official *must* respond to an email?
All my emails to the city get no response. What do I need to do to get a response from them in a timely manner? I can go to the city office, but I also need to work and take care of other things....
Answer: there is no requirement that the city has to respond to your email. If you want somebody to talk to you, you have to find a live body at city hall. Good luck with that.
I want a new improved highway patch on highway one. Improve with a wide emergency shoulder, smooth new pavement. Create some parking in quarry for commuters. That, if anything, should be built there. Fix lighting, even if it helps a little always room for improvement. Build a overpass. There. Problems solved. Now get our new library built.
Forget the library 929. We don't need 30 million more of debt to build an outdated institution on prime commercial real estate. Keep the libraries we have, they're fine and build in more hotel rooms at Beach Blvd.
They usually respond to me 258. Maybe they think you're a crackpot. What were you emailing them about?
Remodel the two libraries bring them into year 2014. Close Sharp Park library and do a remodel. Then do a remodel on Sanchez.
With the Internet, the libraries have been reduced to after school babysitting centers. Or cheap day care.
And who did you email?
I know of more and more people who are using library's due to a bad economy and they can no longer afford internet, cable, land line. I know most who post on fix pacifica are still living in the land of plenty, but every now and then get out and observe your surroundings and talk with people. It is important that we build a new library, one that is updated with the latest in technology. Build the library. Fix the highway. No building in the quarry, other than parking. Some parking, with a fee, in the quarry would be a good idea, with a overpass, or two, for people and tourists to cross over to catch a bus, or shuttle. Our environment is our money maker. It shows. Finally. Don't tell me you do not see tourists, visitors out hiking. I do all the time and they are always speaking a foreign language. Kinda cool. Get with it.
810, you say, "fix the highway", but "no building in the quarry"???? Whereas the quarry is THE potential revenue generator for this city.
Revenue from people walking the hills of Pacifica may be similar to that of pier fishing (free), or attending an art opening at Sanchez (free): + or - zero.
@ 8:10 You do understand we're broke right? We don't need to build a new 30 million dollar library for poor people who can't afford internet. Just fix the ones we have. We need commercial development not more land giveaways. A library bond is not going to pass muster with voters. Forgedaboudit.
I visit the Sanchez library a couple times a month. The vast majority of patrons are over 65 or under 14. The earlier comment about our libraries
being used as daycare is accurate. Clearly, not an ideal situation, but I'd rather see the kids there among books, readers, internet than unsupervised elsewhere. The seniors enjoy the library and many probably live near by. What happens to these people if this branch closes to be replaced by some trophy by the sea? I'd assume the demographics at Hilton Branch might be only slightly different.
Sure, new is nice, but convenient, popular and economical is better. And using that prime real estate on Beach Blvd for a public building is just plain stupid. This whole library thing smacks of ego and elitism--the ego part is unavoidable, particularly when the politicians show up, but the elitism is ridiculous in Pacifica.
Find another generator. The quarry is a non-starter 'tho I know it's like catnip on here. Improve and grow our hotels for that TOT. More market-rate housing and several senior-serving, for profit businesses like that assisted-living facility that was planned for Oddstad. All bring more jobs, taxes, and other revenue. That's what I want for Christmas. Oh and a remodeled Nick's. That could be the crown jewel for Pacifica. Far more likely to lead a recovery than some empty library.
Kathy
Some people who fish off the pier buy bait and tackle at the tackle shops but most hit walmart and stock up on food bait and tackle before they come over to Pacifica.
Too bad our city councils do not have the mindset to figure out, we need revenue producing projects.
Leave Nick's the way it is. Sinatra chic.
259 I think they've figured that out. What they don't know how to do
is make it happen. Given their backgrounds, that's no surprise. I don't fault them for that. But they have been irresponsible in not hiring an economic development expert. Not some paper shuffler, but a rainmaker. It's easy to plead poverty, even when you waste money on nonsense year after year.
Once in office they all seem to lose interest in development. Pacifica's real problem may not have gone away.
255, your comment and "all YOU want for Christmas" is exactly why this city is dead. City Council should stop compromising with your clueless anti-progress, NIMBY ideology-- and listen to the consultants the city has paid (we citizens have paid) to do such researched, educated studies.
General plan consultants advised: #1 develop the quarry to generate city revenue.
As for Oddstad Assisted Living facility, remember how your friends fought and delayed that, and its run out of money looking for a new project owner? Now Nicks (without a destination built around it) will be the "crown jewel" to pay city overhead. One restaurant, privately financed, in the Coastal zone??? Which city consultant recommended that economic development plan? None.
Oh Meeh, it's better than catnip which has been known to induce delirium.
Take it easy.
Hey, more people come to Pacifica for Nick's crab sammie than all those trails and beaches combined. Nick's needs a makeover to keep them coming. Whatever happened to those expansion plans? Maybe killed off by the recession?
Kathy, wouldn't it be one quarry, privately financed, in the coastal zone? The point being we need all the development we can get throughout Pacifica. Nick's and that Rockaway business district are Pacifica's most visible and well-known money-makers. I believe the various consultants decade after decade have stressed visitor serving business. Maybe we should pay attention. Meanwhile, the quarry remains fallow. It's been several years since the end of the recession and as often noted on here "building is booming everywhere but here", and yet no one bites. Don't you think developers know how eager this town would be to cooperate? And yet, no one bites. Don't give up on it, but pragmatism and our survival demand we use and even improve what we have to get more of what we need. Diverse development throughout Pacifica funded any way that works for Pacifica.
Kathy
The noobees bit this council right on the ass. Peter Loeb, suing the city in a temper tandrum that he couldn't get his way.
Do I think Caltrans proposal for the highway 1 is the best plan, NO!
I would like 3 lanes all the way to 280 with the over passes rebuilt and a couple more exit ramps in town.
But then again city council is doing nothing to try to explain the public what the process is going to be.
I can see the money going poof and going to some other better more deserved community and they tell Pacifica to go pound salt.
I been telling y'all every day that this council is no better than councils past. The noobees who led to the distruction of the city financially, endorsed Mary Ann and Karen.
Everyone and his dog endorsed Nihart and Ervin. People who voted for Campbell instead of O'Neill also voted for Nihart and particularly for Ervin. People who voted for O'Neill voted for Nihart and Ervin. It's more about name recognition and a limited field than it is about ideology. Most people in Pacifica are a little bit nimby and a little bit rock and roll. They'll vote for anyone who seems reasonable and not too extreme to them. You shouldn't run.
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