Planning Commission meetings are open to the public and are held at City Council Chambers, 2212 Beach Boulevard, 2nd floor. Or, view on local television, schedule Pacificcoast.TV, (formerly pct26.com). Or possibly try to view on PCTV live feed. The meeting begins at 7 p.m., or shortly there following.
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Construction of a three-story 34-room hotel at 699 Oceana Boulevard. Informal discussion, no formal action is taken.
Agenda item, 3 pages, pdf. 7 p.m.
PV-496-08 Extension of permit to exceed the Hillside Preservation District lot coverage limitation, for the construction of a bed and breakfast inn, 130 Dardenell Avenue, Pacifica (APN 018-113-060). Proposed action: grant extension request for two years.
Related - 699 Oceana Boulevard, Coldwell Banker/California Moves sold listing, photograph from Loopnet.
Note: the above pdf document information was obtained from Pacifica Index. The city internet server seems to be down yesterday and today. Thank you Chris Fogel for maintaining city documents on your city documents website!
Posted by Kathy Meeh
24 comments:
Did anyone watch or attend?
I was there.
Details?
Has Bray appealed this project to the Coastal Commission yet?
Coastal Commission? Let's hope this project gets that far. Replacing one business with another on that site shouldn't upset the rotation of the earth too much. Meanwhile, what's up with the HIE? When do they start work on the expansion?
Not sure if he can, it's east of the highway
Coastal Zone generally extends 1000 yards inland from the mean high tide mark. That's "generally" and there are locations where it extends further inland, but there's no mention of the coastal zone in the staff report used in this study session. Let's be optimistic!
Let's have some optimism! From the website of the CA Coastal Commission, "The coastal zone varies in width from several hundred feet in highly urbanized areas up to five miles in certain rural areas". Sounds like incorporated areas appear to have some say. Hutch mentions east of the highway. From some random Pacifica document dated 1980, the eastern edge of highway one is the inland limit of the coastal zone within Pacifica. We may not be highly urbanized, but seems like the CCC gave partial credit for our collection of shacks by the sea.
In Pacifica; East of highway one no Coastal Commission. West of Highway one is the Coastal Zone. If you are on highway one your "Road Kill"
Check out the second agenda item. Build a B&B in Vallemar? With the twirlies?
At the study session last night there was a lot of concern from neighbors about the following.
1. Parking (the project as proposed needs a parking variance)No commissioners seemed to be in favor of allowing any on street parking for this business.
2. light and noise pollution from a 24hour a day business on the homes close to the project.
3. the height of the building (41.5 ft Vs.35 ft standard)causing lose of views.
4. traffic impacts on Oceana
5. Design features. The design was a first look an could do with some refinement.
Don't see any real issues Tom
They can build in underground parking.
Chevron station next door is 24 hr with bright lights
The hill is behind, not sure who's view it would obstruct
Traffic impact minimal
Design eh
Underground parking would roughly double the cost of the building. I thought we were trying to encourage commercial visitor-serving development, not kill it before it even gets out of a study session.
It's that old nobie DNA coming through loud and clear.
Underground parking might be a deal breaker. I suggested to the Architect that they investigate a deal to use some of the excess parking spaces next to Anderson Swim School when they run short. Valet parking for guest when needed would add a touch of class and also keep the cars off the neighborhood streets.
Too much noise and too bright at night? The complainers see an opportunity to reduce the existing noise level and they're going for it! The Christian Science Reading Room will not be building there. Maybe they'd like a wee little doggie park there instead?
Expensive options for what at most could be a moderately priced hotel. There goes the profit margin and there goes the hotel. Tell the nobies to relax. Next!
Tom, make that parking and security for whatever is parked off-site.
I'll leave the details to the architect and owners.
Valet parking for guest when needed would add a touch of class and also keep the cars off the neighborhood street.
A touch of class in Pacifica, Pacifica always was a tv dinner and pork and beans kind of town.
I call BS. Underground parking would not double the cost or even add 25% more. If it's too expensive then they can build in split level parking. Of course there has to be parking built in. Have you ever seen a hotel in a suburban area without parking? That's not nimby, that's common sense.
I don't think A valet for a 34 room discount hotel is not feasible. If they are charging $250 a night, maybe, but you've got to be kidding to say this is a $250 a night location. For $100/night, they cannot afford to pay someone FT 24/7 to park cars. Parking for this hotel is way in back. Street parking is inevitable, due to safety concerns. They need to park all cars onsite, maybe in front of the hotel. Change the design to minimize views.
646 Your house, your dinner. Let's be optimistic about another hotel and $250K yearly in TOT.
Think positive people!
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