Friday, November 27, 2015
City Council Rent Stabilization Study Session, Saturday December 5, 2015
Public email memo from the City of Pacifica/City Council, 11/25/15. "City Council Study Session on Rent Stabilization set for December 5, 2015."
"The City Council of the City of Pacifica will be holding a special meeting Study Session on Rent Stabilization. The date and time have been confirmed as indicated below. The location is yet to be determined.
Possible locations include either City Council Chambers at 2212 Beach Boulevard or Ingrid B. Lacy Middle School multi-purpose room located at 1427 Palmetto Avenue. The location will be confirmed upon posting of the Notice and Agenda for the study session.
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2015. Time: 10:00 a.m. Location: To be determined." This information will be updated once the Study Session location is known.
Update: Confirming, the meeting will be at Ingrid B. Lacy Middle School multi-purpose room located at 1427 Palmetto Avenue, Saturday, December 5, 2015, 10:00 a.m.
Posted by Kathy Meeh
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Only in Pacifica you plan a meeting but don't know where!!
San Mateo County just passed a 45 day urgent stay on mobile home parks this week.
City Councilmembers are extremely reluctant to buck the County on something like this, so if you're a Realtor against Rent Control and John Keener's supports for evicted residents, it is imperative that you show up for this meeting!
It is at Council Chambers by the way.
Does this "urgent stay" apply to cities or unincorporated areas or both? I guess Council would feel the chill either way. Tough luck, realtors! Avoid more bad PR and just stay home.
Why are realtors opposed to rent control? The ordinances do not apply to single family homes. Nor do they apply to duplex or smaller unit multi-family housing. Also limitations based on when a property was built. Can someone share why there is such strong opposition?
@5:12 Why are realtors opposed to rent control? I suspect it's because it's their job to focus on the housing market, so they know more than most of us how it would affect the market. I'm not a realtor, but they're the experts so I'd take their advice over most opinions. That they're so strongly (if not unanimously?) opposed should tell you something.
Because they want to sell multi-unit rental properties. Some are also landlords or property managers. And none are tenants in multi-unit rentals.
806 Realtors aren't experts on rent control.
They receive no training on rent control during the state licensing course and there are no requirements for even a high school diploma.
512 Beyond that dazzling expertise, realtors instinctively fear the slippery slope of rent control and any other regulation that might reduce their income. Today, it's the rents in trailer parks, tomorrow it could be multi-unit and single fam homes. Not only do they sell the stuff, they often own it. Poor things are scared to death. Something they have in common with the folks who are losing their homes, although in only the most superficial way. Empathy? Not a chance.
Pacifica has zero chance for rent control. In order to have rent control, you need a rent control board, people to enforce the rules, and people as in a hearing officer to determine the rules.
Pacifica doesn't have the money nor the expertise to set this up and make it work.
Keener the Greener is blowing smoke up his hippie nobbee and nimby base once again.
1029 Some commenters here are unaware that Pacifica already has rent control which has been working silently and effectively for some time.
SF Rent control is paid for by a rental unit fee of $36.00 per apartment unit and $18.00 per residential hotel room, usually half of which is paid by tenant.
3:41
Please explain. There is a rent control ordinance for the trailer park only.
As far as I know or can remember.
Pacifica's existing rent control to date has cost taxpayers zero dollars and zero cents.
There is not a single line item on the budget that has ever been attributed to its maintenance.
341 should clarify, that is $18.00 per year, $180 dollars over ten years, not exactly chump change to a mom and pop renting out a 1 BR apartment in Pacifica for $1800 a month.
^^^ $180 over ten years sounds like chump change to me.
I'd be OK with something like a 15% maximum rent increase a year along with 90 or 120 days notice of a rent increase. I know some renters will bitch about even that, but at least it's not the kind of unconscionable 2x or 3x increase in rent on very short notice that some people say they are getting.
^^ A 15% increase per year based on 341's initial rent of $1800 would look like:
Day 0 $1800
Year 1 $2070
Year 2 $2381
Year 3 $2761
Year 4 $3231
Year 5 $3812
So apartment rent would double every four and half years or so if demand persisted.
Surely no realtor in town could possibly have a problem with something that broad that pretty much just said "no profiteering", right?
So are we going to double the minimum wage every four and a half years too or should we just accept that we don't need to have workers, whether at Walgreens or City Hall living in Pacifica.
Because if we try to double city workers wages every four and half years we'll be bankrupt in two years.
Public Works employees in Beverly Hills don't live in Beverly Hills, why do teachers or janitors or even the City Manager for that matter, need to live within the City limits?
Agenda memo says this will be at IBL Middle School, this Saturday, 10:00 to 1:00.
http://www.pacifica.city/forms/PAC_PCC_agenda_120515_housing_crisis.pdf
108, thanks. I'll be posting the Agenda for this meeting next.
Where did the 15% increase per year come from?! I believe it's capped at low single digits, i.e. 2% of CPI whichever is lower.
^^^
15% seemed like a good compromise. Renters will think it's too much, and landlords will think it's too little.
As far as I know, there's no mandated percentage increase a city must use if it implements rent control, so the 2% of CPI increase isn't really relevant. Another Bay Area city recently implemented rent control, though I can't remember which city it was. I believe they limited rent increases to about 9% a year.
You rent control advocates are in la-la-land. Have you no comprehension of the unintended consequences of rent control which ultimately leads to a significant decrease in the supply of affordable housing? This is because rent control is violating the age old laws of supply and demand. If you want taxpayer subsidized housing, why not just say so and we'll institute yet another feel good socialist program that will ultimately fail and/or break the bank. But let's not kid ourselves, please.
547, Let's not kid ourselves we already have taxpayer subsidized housing, but the biggest subsidies by far have been to homeowners, through Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, and it broke the bank in 2008.
I like Steve Sinnai's idea of capping rent increases for non-single family homes, somewhere between 7-15% seems pretty fair.
Rent control technically can't legally affect single family homes in California, but it would definitely affect apartment buildings, etc.
It won't protect the Pacific Skies mobile home park though, that is all under federal rent control and has been for some time.
The tax break I get on my mortgage insurance is also a big tax subsidy. I love it, but I don't kid myself about the fact that tax payers subsidize my house.
Wait -- I meant that I get a tax break on my mortgage interest - not insurance. Doh.
As someone with several rental properties, I could live with a ten percent annual rent increase cap that doubled rents roughly every seven years.
No one can finance rental property that isn't cash flow positive anyway.
The rent increases are the gravy on top. I don't need them to make a profit and pay the mortgage, but they sure are nice at the end of the year!
1027 Doesn't or didn't SF have rent control that effects single family homes? One of our neighbors owns 2 rental homes in SF-one under rent control and one not. There's about a $2800 difference in the rents on near identical 2/1 950 square feet homes 2 doors apart. The rent controlled property has had the same tenant for at least 15 years. The other property has a revolving door.
Rent increases should be linked to the national COLA or rate of inflation. If you own property for rent and your ideas are "sorry suckers, pay me," then @#$% you.
Toddler,
Ever heard of the phrase "it takes one to know one"?
You always very quickly go to the worst side of human behavior.
You must have a lot of issues.
Todd, maybe this same rationale should be used for the repair people called to fix a leaky pipe, electrical outlet or carpet repair. Property taxes and association dues also do not follow the formula you are subscribing to. I have a rental property that is currently rented for a mimimum of $1,000 a month less than I could easily ask but I know my tenants and really like them. They are also respectful of the care they give the property. I know of some retired people in Pacifica who live off the rental income they receive and a few years ago when rents too a drastic dive they suffered hardship. There are two sides to every coin.
11:09 Anger Management is down the hall in room 202
I went. Lots of people spoke. Only four of the five council-members were there, and they didn't want to make any kind of final decision without all five members. (Mary Ann was gone.)
An attempt to pass some kind of emergency ordinance was discussed because there was recognition that the people in the mobile home park needed quick action, but since nobody actually had a proposal to offer, nothing happened. It looks like they'll take this up against next month, and in the meantime they'll encourage tenants and landlords to do more talking.
Almost everyone realized new housing was needed, except Keener. Even Sue said we needed more low-income and affordable housing. From listening to him, I don't think Keener will ever admit lack of housing is part of the problem.
Steve, did you get booed or cheered when you suggested your 15% annual rent increase limit?
Not Steve. Scoop.
I didn't hear anything. Maybe everyone was in shock. Or maybe people were silently giving me the middle-finger salute.
Didn't seem to have much of an effect on Council. They were staring at me with a glazed look in their eyes, but it may have been because I was about the 40th person to speak.
The decision was to evaluate rent control and the Healdsburg mediation-fair housing education model in a Jan council meeting with the full 5 members present.
Opponents of rent control "won" the speaker contest by having 3 more speakers than the supporters.
Does anyone out there think the City Council cares one bit about what you have to say? Just shut up and continue paying taxes and fees.
City Council finally put rent stabilization and just eviction on agenda ,as John Keener requested.The pro-stabilization speakers were so dramatic,and after 5 hrs testimony,staff had to prod Council ,half-frozen in unheated auditorium ,for direction.A smart decision!
In other previously unreported on some blogs:
A Pacifica McDonald’s employee was robbed at gunpoint at the restaurant’s drive-thru window on Sunday morning, police said.
At about 10:30 a.m., a man in his 30s with a gun walked up to the drive-thru window in the Linda Mar Shopping Center and demanded money, police said.
The employee gave him the money and he ran south into the shopping center, police said.
The suspect was described as a black man wearing a green hat and puffy ski jacket. He was wearing a mask at the time of the robbery, police said. Anyone with information about the robbery has been asked to call Pacifica police at (650) 738-7314.
1217, the main reasons I keep spamming your City crime "unreported news" is that you do not reference (document and link) your news sources-- and, such information interjected into an unrelated article as a comment is presented by "anonymous".
Having said that, such crime reports could be small blog articles sent to fixpacifica@gmail.com. And to that, you may even add a picture if you wish. Such crime reports submitted under your name would be welcome, (Steve "Blogmaster" Sinai posts these). Think about it.
How many of these types o crimes are actually solved in Pacifica?
Is it possible that the bad guys are starting to realize that Pacifica is a sitting duck with no resources and a bunch of commies spending their energy on things that have nothing to do with making Pacifica a functional city resistant to crime?
Hey Lancelle, Digre and deJarnutt, where's the $4,500,000 you "misplaced"?
After I get my rent control apartment I am opening up a AirBnB Service. I could make lots of money.
1217, the main reasons I keep spamming your City crime "unreported news" is that you do not reference (document and link) your news sources-- and, such information interjected into an unrelated article as a comment is presented by "anonymous".
The press release came from the Pacifica Police Department. IN the media briefing.
1145, thank you for your reference, keep up the good work in doing that.
How about someone step-up to be our city crime reporter?
Also, other city reporting-- your submitted articles and posting of organizational events is appreciated.
Please, send them to Steve (information blog upper left), fixpacifica@gmail.com.
Happy Holidays!
12:45
How much dinero?
201, same volunteer "dinero" as you receive for your "priceless" comment.
Possibly for others, there is intrinsic value in making the world a better place".
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