I think Sinai is correct. Campbell has a really solid block of support and they know they have to win this seat to stay alive in Pacifica. I wish Spano and Mondfrans would drop out for the good of the community. They have no chance this time and O'Neill has a chance if it's head to head with Campbell.
Campbell is a federal bureaucrat. Better yet, he is a federal EPA attorney bureaucrat. That does not bode well for this city. We've been run for the last 30 years by like minded eco warriors and look where it has got us! Broken down infrastructure, no reserves, road conditions of a third world country, and no vision forward for this city. Another activist for no-nothing -here-ever position. No thanks.
Readers who wish additional perspective can hop on over to Pacifica Index where we asked the candidates for their views on a short series of questions and issues.
I have to agree with Anons 758. Spano is the strongest pro growth candidate. In fact he's the only one who's come right out and said he will work with Mary Ann and Len to end the gridlock.
All these phrases like "stop the quibbling" "all get along" "don't look to the past" are code for "I don't think the NIMBY's have been that bad and we all need to work together."
Bullcrap! We've been trying to "work together" with these hippy naysayers for 20+ years. We need new council people who promise not to let these people delay our progress anymore.
Hutch when you quoted "stop the quibbling, let's all get along, forget the past" more or less, I thought you were quoting Mariann.
Kumbaya etc, but wtf cares if a candidate says they'll work with selected incumbents. Don't need a puppet!
I want someone who'll really put Pacifica first and will vote on the merits of the ideas and proposals that come before him. How refreshing would that be! Someone who thinks for himself but can be trusted to act with honor for the greater benefit of this city and its residents.
If you liked Vreeland you'll love Campbell. This is the guy who told the School Board they were stupid for not supporting the Bio-Diesel boondoggle. This is the guy who threw a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the School Board because he didn't like the food they provided at lunch. This is the guy who bobbed and weaved around the Brown Act violations during Planning Commission meetings and then stood up in front of Council (and PCTV) to say he was 100% supportive of Brown Act regulations. This guy is a phoney, arrogant, rude and self centered NIMBY. This guy is Vreeland's Mini-Me.
I'm for O'Neill but laffed so hard at Spano's statement on the Index where he questions council choices re the plan for the OWWTP. He may be in the stone/nihart tent but i guess he couldn't help himself re the OWWTP money pit. Rookie!
Campbell on council even as part of a minority is dangerous. He's an EPA lawyer and they know how to derail anything. We have enough problems without letting a fox get in the henhouse.
@235 Relax yourself. O'Neill is practical. He knows how to get things done. And he's no nimby. He'll put Pacifica first.
I'm not worried about gridlock. I worry much more about the serious lack of transparency at city hall. I no longer trust them. I do trust Mike O'Neill.
You know everytime some poster rants that Campbell tossed a PB&J at the school board, I feel a kinship. Not enough to vote for him, well not yet, but there's a definite connection. An unintended consequence I'm sure, but there it is.
Can someone point out the flaws in Campbell's record? From what I have read he wants to help Pacifica grow. He supports building in the Quarry and commercial development throughout our City. Since he works for the EPA that makes him a nimby? He worked for major real estate developers so that doesn't count? O'Niell's answers were short and had no substance. Spano offers a good insight into his thoughts for our city. He seems to have the experience as well.
Look at the track record. Actions always speak louder than words. IMO that's what is important, not the rehearsed, coached, careful responses to the predictable campaign questions. O'Neill and Campbell have plenty of public service history in Pacifica to consider...on the school board and the planning commission, respectively. Spano and Mondfrans, not so much. It's campaign season and, again IMO, generally the more they say the less able they really are and the less they deliver.
I just read the candidate responses to questions over on Pacifica Index, and I have to say I'm impressed with Spano's answers.
Not everything he proposes may work, but I appreciate his concrete ideas as opposed to the typically ambiguous, "We need to study all alternatives and choose the best one" type of responses that the rest of the candidates offered. It lets people know that he's put a lot of thought into the problems Pacifica faces.
Other than that, I was disappointed that the candidates were basically rehashing the same ideas that I've been hearing for almost 30 years.
I'm telling you Steve, I think Spano deserves a look. To me he seems way stronger on fixing Pacifica issues. I'm still willing to look at ONeill though. I don't want to split up the vote.
I was very impressed that Spano returned my email and answered all of my questions. He doesn't seem to pull any punches. And he's not just saying what people want to hear.
Spano's another civil service bureaucrat. Not necessarily a bad thing but really not what we need now. What's he done in the public arena other than a few commissions and committees? That's just not enough to solve the problems this town has. O'Neill knows how to get things done and he knows what needs to be done. Uncoached straight-talk even during a campaign! He's a proven problem solver, seasoned, cares about Pacifica, and he's smart. And, he's the best hope we have to keep Campbell out of office. Do we dare dream of an all new planning commission, too? Hell, yes!
I like Bell's comment on O'Neill's realistic approach. It always saves time and money. We've seen the results of voting for the lastest flavor of the month. Nice, very personable, even well-meaning people who can't get the job done. They waste their time and our money on projects and activities that are very poor substitutes for progress. We have no more time to waste and the money is gone. Time for some pragmatism at city hall and someone who can do the job now. That's Mike O'Neill.
I'm not buying the lopsided campaign "anonymous" people are presenting. And I'm a personal fan of Mike Bell, but to choose a preferred two year city council candidate I'll wait for more information and precise follow-up responses from each candidate.
Victor Spano's education and occupation are Economic Development. And we do know his employer, the City of Daly City, does know how to accomplish issues of economic development.
Mike O'Neill is a strong candidate with a background in Real Estate. His track record includes filling empty school buildings, and he has a consensus school district background.
From the Pacifica Index (sponsors unknown) city council candidate questionnaire responses to date, you would think Richard Campbell is the best Candidate. But then, as they say "the devil is in the details".
Pragmatism appeals to me, as does candidate clarity, moving this city forward, and getting the job done.
FMV achieving consensus in this city is way overrated. Overrated due to three decades of eco-manipulation inside the city (city council and friends), and outside the city from national and local organizations such as the Sierra Club. The result, we are living with inadequate balanced city planning. See "sustainable development", scroll down to the 1/3 each environment, social, economic graph. Compare to our built-out city model: almost 2/3 unproductive open space, "the gift that just keeps on giving."
Whoever is elected, this time the newly elected city council majority will be economic friendly. Let them step-up to deal with city inadequacies, and at the same time push ahead.
Kathy, you thought Campbell gave the best responses to the Pacifica Index survey? WTF? Campbell's big achievements are nothing more than allowing a handful of remodels.
Richard Campbell's comments are reasoned, well thought-out, he's a professional, he has managerial experience on our Planning Commission. I think you have not read his well crafted comments. Pacifica Index.
Even so, my impression is that his expressed grand ideas for Pacifica may not be realistic, or pay the bills. Caltrans has studied the traffic congestion issue, so I tend to trust them. The open space vision I view as underproductive use of land (a real drag on our economy). His flip response to the Planning Commission Brown Act violation was wrong.
"achieving consensus in this city is way overrated" Sounds like you've joined the tea party, Kathy" Anonymous 1:58 PM
Tea Party? Sure, time to join in the future when "hell freezes over". But sounds like you forgot the past 30 years of Pacifica history.
Think we tried consensus and stupidity. With what's left, the city desperately needs less nonsense and a whole lot more smart thinking and action toward developing an economy.
Breaking news, hell has frozen over and margaritas are being served! Meeh has been "turned". Good to know. Guess the first sign was that nonsense about Kimco. Be careful out there kids.
No anon 158 maybe she's just one more person who doesn't buy the psycho-babble approach to gov't. Some unambiguous political will is what we need. No miracles are expected but common sense and pragmatism will be welcome. Pacifica has had a series of "leaders" who excelled only at pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining. Enough.
I'd expect very strong presentations by Campbell and Spano. Well-reasoned, well-written, authoritative but not annoying, insightful and very attuned to the reader's needs. It's what they do all year long at work. I wouldn't give it too much weight.
Mike Bell refers to building consensus as an important trait for a councilmember. I agree wholeheartedly if we can narrow the definition of it to the ability to lead. I'm done with the approach now in use of talking something to death, or, all too often, until any political danger has passed. True leaders are rare, and maybe they're all busy elsewhere, but to have someone who actually inspires and persuades agreement/consensus on an issue would make this a different town. I'm dreaming, I know. The reality is, we vote with hope and we end up with hacks. But we can dream. And people can change.
Yeah Todd, I'd rather see him run for the 4 year seat. The way it is Campbell has a large block of support and Mike, Spano and Mondfrans will split the rest. What a shame. We need Mike O'Neill's experience and common sense more than ever.
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44 comments:
Campbell = NIMBY environmental bureaucrat
Monfrans = Alien (and not from another country)
ONeill - My second choice
Spano - Tells it like it is
ABC=Anyone But Campbell!!
Rich Campbell will win this. The other three will split the vote.
I think Sinai is correct. Campbell has a really solid block of support and they know they have to win this seat to stay alive in Pacifica. I wish Spano and Mondfrans would drop out for the good of the community. They have no chance this time and O'Neill has a chance if it's head to head with Campbell.
I agree with the guy (or girl) who agrees with me.
Campbell is a federal bureaucrat. Better yet, he is a federal EPA attorney bureaucrat. That does not bode well for this city. We've been run for the last 30 years by like minded eco warriors and look where it has got us! Broken down infrastructure, no reserves, road conditions of a third world country, and no vision forward for this city. Another activist for no-nothing -here-ever position. No thanks.
Readers who wish additional perspective can hop on over to
Pacifica Index where we asked the candidates for their views on a short series of questions and issues.
I strongly disagree Steve. There are not 3 pro growth candidates against one NIMBY.
Monfrans, a NIMBY is his own right will attract a lot of Campbells potential voters on the left maybe taking 20% of his votes.
Oneill is wishy washy and will also attract some hippies.
Spano is our strongest pro growth candidate. We should get behind him 100% and we can win.
Even if they get Campbell there will only be 2 radical no growth council members.
I have to agree with Anons 758. Spano is the strongest pro growth candidate. In fact he's the only one who's come right out and said he will work with Mary Ann and Len to end the gridlock.
All these phrases like "stop the quibbling" "all get along" "don't look to the past" are code for "I don't think the NIMBY's have been that bad and we all need to work together."
Bullcrap! We've been trying to "work together" with these hippy naysayers for 20+ years. We need new council people who promise not to let these people delay our progress anymore.
Spano is that person.
Get smart. Voting for anyone other than Mike O'Neill for that 2 year seat will guarantee that Campbell gets in. We need Mike O'Neill!
Hutch when you quoted "stop the quibbling, let's all get along, forget the past" more or less, I thought you were quoting Mariann.
Kumbaya etc, but wtf cares if a candidate says they'll work with selected incumbents. Don't need a puppet!
I want someone who'll really put Pacifica first and will vote on the merits of the ideas and proposals that come before him. How refreshing would that be! Someone who thinks for himself but can be trusted to act with honor for the greater benefit of this city and its residents.
That's Mike O'Neill. No one else comes close.
Yes, stick to your guns! Refuse to ever compromise!
We can all see how well that's worked out with the extremist nimrods (on both sides) in Congress.
If you liked Vreeland you'll love Campbell.
This is the guy who told the School Board they were stupid for not supporting the Bio-Diesel boondoggle.
This is the guy who threw a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at the School Board because he didn't like the food they provided at lunch.
This is the guy who bobbed and weaved around the Brown Act violations during Planning Commission meetings and then stood up in front of Council (and PCTV) to say he was 100% supportive of Brown Act regulations.
This guy is a phoney, arrogant, rude and self centered NIMBY.
This guy is Vreeland's Mini-Me.
I'm for O'Neill but laffed so hard at Spano's statement on the Index where he questions council choices re the plan for the OWWTP. He may be in the stone/nihart tent but i guess he couldn't help himself re the OWWTP money pit. Rookie!
Campbell on council even as part of a minority is dangerous. He's an EPA lawyer and they know how to derail anything. We have enough problems without letting a fox get in the henhouse.
Nyuk Nyuk, way to use ad homines to TRY to get your point across. Next time skip the phones arrogant line.....
anon@235 How predictable you are. And how wrong. O'Neill is definitely the right guy and your canned response is the proof.
O'Neill's record of dealing effectively and openly with complex and emotionally charged real problems speaks for itself.
"This guy is a phoney, arrogant, rude and self centered NIMBY."
I found Rich Campbell to be a pretty nice guy. His record is a deal-breaker, though.
@235 Relax yourself. O'Neill is practical. He knows how to get things done. And he's no nimby. He'll put Pacifica first.
I'm not worried about gridlock. I worry much more about the serious lack of transparency at city hall. I no longer trust them. I do trust Mike O'Neill.
You know everytime some poster rants that Campbell tossed a PB&J at the school board, I feel a kinship. Not enough to vote for him, well not yet, but there's a definite connection. An unintended consequence I'm sure, but there it is.
@235 No problem with legitimate compromise but no puppets and no incumbents for me!
Can someone point out the flaws in Campbell's record? From what I have read he wants to help Pacifica grow. He supports building in the Quarry and commercial development throughout our City. Since he works for the EPA that makes him a nimby? He worked for major real estate developers so that doesn't count? O'Niell's answers were short and had no substance. Spano offers a good insight into his thoughts for our city. He seems to have the experience as well.
Well I'm glad we all see eye to eye on this as usual.
Look at the track record. Actions always speak louder than words. IMO that's what is important, not the rehearsed, coached, careful responses to the predictable campaign questions. O'Neill and Campbell have plenty of public service history in Pacifica to consider...on the school board and the planning commission, respectively. Spano and Mondfrans, not so much. It's campaign season and, again IMO, generally the more they say the less able they really are and the less they deliver.
Well I'v always respected your opinion Anon 1030. Thatnks for helping me make up my mind.
anon@757
Asked and answered with the utmost sincerity, I'm sure. Let's play again, soon?
I just read the candidate responses to questions over on Pacifica Index, and I have to say I'm impressed with Spano's answers.
Not everything he proposes may work, but I appreciate his concrete ideas as opposed to the typically ambiguous, "We need to study all alternatives and choose the best one" type of responses that the rest of the candidates offered. It lets people know that he's put a lot of thought into the problems Pacifica faces.
Other than that, I was disappointed that the candidates were basically rehashing the same ideas that I've been hearing for almost 30 years.
I'm telling you Steve, I think Spano deserves a look. To me he seems way stronger on fixing Pacifica issues. I'm still willing to look at ONeill though. I don't want to split up the vote.
I was very impressed that Spano returned my email and answered all of my questions. He doesn't seem to pull any punches. And he's not just saying what people want to hear.
O'neil is smart and realistic about what needs to be done to fix Pacifica. Even better, he knows how to build consensus.
Spano's another civil service bureaucrat. Not necessarily a bad thing but really not what we need now. What's he done in the public arena other than a few commissions and committees? That's just not enough to solve the problems this town has.
O'Neill knows how to get things done and he knows what needs to be done. Uncoached straight-talk even during a campaign! He's a proven problem solver, seasoned, cares about Pacifica, and he's smart. And, he's the best hope we have to keep Campbell out of office. Do we dare dream of an all new planning commission, too? Hell, yes!
I like Bell's comment on O'Neill's
realistic approach. It always saves time and money.
We've seen the results of voting for the lastest flavor of the month. Nice, very personable, even well-meaning people who can't get the job done. They waste their time and our money on projects and activities that are very poor substitutes for progress. We have no more time to waste and the money is gone.
Time for some pragmatism at city hall and someone who can do the job now. That's Mike O'Neill.
I'm not buying the lopsided campaign "anonymous" people are presenting. And I'm a personal fan of Mike Bell, but to choose a preferred two year city council candidate I'll wait for more information and precise follow-up responses from each candidate.
Victor Spano's education and occupation are Economic Development. And we do know his employer, the City of Daly City, does know how to accomplish issues of economic development.
Mike O'Neill is a strong candidate with a background in Real Estate. His track record includes filling empty school buildings, and he has a consensus school district background.
From the Pacifica Index (sponsors unknown) city council candidate questionnaire responses to date, you would think Richard Campbell is the best Candidate. But then, as they say "the devil is in the details".
Pragmatism appeals to me, as does candidate clarity, moving this city forward, and getting the job done.
FMV achieving consensus in this city is way overrated. Overrated due to three decades of eco-manipulation inside the city (city council and friends), and outside the city from national and local organizations such as the Sierra Club. The result, we are living with inadequate balanced city planning. See "sustainable development", scroll down to the 1/3 each environment, social, economic graph. Compare to our built-out city model: almost 2/3 unproductive open space, "the gift that just keeps on giving."
Whoever is elected, this time the newly elected city council majority will be economic friendly. Let them step-up to deal with city inadequacies, and at the same time push ahead.
Kathy, you thought Campbell gave the best responses to the Pacifica Index survey? WTF? Campbell's big achievements are nothing more than allowing a handful of remodels.
Anonymous 11:29 AM, your language?
Richard Campbell's comments are reasoned, well thought-out, he's a professional, he has managerial experience on our Planning Commission. I think you have not read his well crafted comments. Pacifica Index.
Even so, my impression is that his expressed grand ideas for Pacifica may not be realistic, or pay the bills. Caltrans has studied the traffic congestion issue, so I tend to trust them. The open space vision I view as underproductive use of land (a real drag on our economy). His flip response to the Planning Commission Brown Act violation was wrong.
"achieving consensus in this city is way overrated"
Sounds like you've joined the tea party, Kathy.
"achieving consensus in this city is way overrated" Sounds like you've joined the tea party, Kathy" Anonymous 1:58 PM
Tea Party? Sure, time to join in the future when "hell freezes over". But sounds like you forgot the past 30 years of Pacifica history.
Think we tried consensus and stupidity. With what's left, the city desperately needs less nonsense and a whole lot more smart thinking and action toward developing an economy.
Breaking news, hell has frozen over
and margaritas are being served! Meeh has been "turned". Good to know. Guess the first sign was that nonsense about Kimco. Be careful out there kids.
No anon 158 maybe she's just one more person who doesn't buy the psycho-babble approach to gov't. Some unambiguous political will is what we need. No miracles are expected but common sense and pragmatism will be welcome.
Pacifica has had a series of "leaders" who excelled only at pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining. Enough.
What's in this year? Development. Lucky you little voter because I know all about development. Let me tell you. You're going to love my story.
I'd expect very strong presentations by Campbell and Spano. Well-reasoned, well-written, authoritative but not annoying, insightful and very attuned to the reader's needs. It's what they do all year long at work. I wouldn't give it too much weight.
Mike Bell refers to building consensus as an important trait for a councilmember. I agree wholeheartedly if we can narrow the definition of it to the ability to lead. I'm done with the approach now in use of talking something to death, or, all too often, until any political danger has passed. True leaders are rare, and maybe they're all busy elsewhere, but to have someone who actually inspires and persuades agreement/consensus on an issue would make this a different town. I'm dreaming, I know. The reality is, we vote with hope and we end up with hacks. But we can dream. And people can change.
It's a real missed opportunity Mike didn't go for a 4 year seat.
Yeah Todd, I'd rather see him run for the 4 year seat. The way it is Campbell has a large block of support and Mike, Spano and Mondfrans will split the rest. What a shame. We need Mike O'Neill's experience and common sense more than ever.
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