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| BJ Nathanson has some concerns, but the Gypsy Hill geological study should assess hillside slide threat, and the Planning Department/Commission will reassess project size. |
.... "But no one knows better than Santa Cruz geologist Gerald Weber that predicting landslides is a perilously imprecise science. .... The Bay Area is replete with unstable hillsides that could instantly collapse during a heavy rain or an earthquake. .....
.... Where? When? How big? Those are the three big questions we are trying to answer," said U.S. Geological Survey landslide expert Jonathan Stock, who is using probes to measure hillside moisture and slippage in east Castro Valley, Marin County's Lucas Valley, San Bruno and Pacifica's Montara Mountain." Read article. Note: The article includes videos, and the above graph from the California Geological Survey.
Related - Pacifica Riptide article/BJ Nathanson, 4/14/14, "Gypsy Hill a Gogo: Pacifica Planning Commission, April 21," (study session). The article includes notice of the Planning Commission's Proposed Project feasibility study, "A study session for a residential subdivision project at Gypsy Hill," (3 pages). BJ Nathanson (former Planning Commissioner) encourages Riptiders to show up at the study session to protest this "... grossly larger development than we were originally presented..."
Posted by Kathy Meeh
15 comments:
BJ also has an axe to grind cause she quit Planning in a hissy fit cause she couldn't get her way. Seems to be a common thing with the Planning Commission. The rogue attorney was replaced she files a lawsuit against the city regarding Highway 1. Bray grinds his axe on every proposed project. People love to whisper in City Councils ears.
Also the fact the city of Pacifica, does not have an engineer on staff. These hillside houses built upon since the last El Nino are going to be in trouble.
Oh BJ BJ BJ. You worry too much. This project is a safety modernization. Human beings, especially families, are the best monitors of hillside movement. And what better place to put our human monitors than in houses perched on and below hillsides? Versteh?
This is another example of long time property owners being vilified for proposing to do something with their large tract of land. When the late Dr.Campagna objected to the taking of a portion of his property to widen Sharp Park Rd meantto benefit all Pacifica residents, he was painted as a bad guy. Now that his heirs are proposing something that will not only benefit themselves, but provide additional housing that is bandied about as "much needed", they are once again considered the bad guys. I don't blame them one bit if they sell out to some big money outsider to push this development through. For myself, sure, I'd like to see something less or nothing at all built on Gypsy Hill. But I also find it objectionable that some Pacifica residents continue to be in favor of trampling on others property rights. If there are those that really want to see Gypsy Hill left as an open space area, then start working with POST or the GGNRA to purchase the land. Don't expect the private property owner to carry the burden.
It's a similar situation with that 5 acre Calson property that the PPCA wants to be a neighborhood park. For a number of years, the PPIA( forerunner of the PPCA) made a number of half hearted attempts to purchase the property from the San Francisco Archdiocese. I had occasion to speak with the Archdiocese representative , Maurice( don't recall last name) and inquire as to why they wouldn't consider selling the property to the PPIA. He kind of chuckled and then politely explained that he would get a call perhaps two or three times a year from various people representing the PPIA asking about the availability of the parcel. Never any firm offers, just continual questions. In the end, the property was sold at a bargain price to Calson, who had done a lot of work for Catholic Charities and the Archdiocese. Having failed to negotiate a sale with the Archdiocese, the now PPCA has continued to try to get Calson to give them the neighborhood park they claim to want, I expect at some fire sale price. I would also like to see that property remain undeveloped or lightly developed. But again, it's a question of the current owner's property rights.
12:00 Your list is incomplete. Didn't your mother teach you to invite the whole class to your birthday party? Rejection is a powerful motivator. Save some cake for Jim Wagner.
1200 Here, let me jog your memory on the reason BJ Nathanson quit the Planning Commission. She tired of fellow commissioners repeatedly and excessively applying their own personal idealogies to project review. Projects that met all code and zoning requirements were routinely declined or stalled into oblivion. Is it starting to come back to you, now? Frankly, I think BJ calls them as she sees them. Agree or disagree with her, but she's no ideologue. If she was, she'd have been very comfortable with that Planning Commission.
Remember the guy Mahoney wanted to build a concert hall and Ocean Center and the hippies chased him out of town.
Let some development happen for Christ sake. We don't need anymore open space. I've been here for decades and never remember one landslide on Gypsy Hill. Let's let a geologist determine if it's appropriate and stop trying to shoot every project down before it gets started. Talk about playing on peoples fears.
Seems like up-to-date geology and soils reports would protect everyone involved, the Campagnas, the city, potential residents, and those who live downslope. The property is in the HPD. Clorinda Campagna was a voice for balance on the Open Space Committee for many, many, many years. She knows the concerns and liabilities and how they apply to her property. I bet she'd like to get this done in her lifetime for her family. There have been mudslides on Gypsy Hill when we had wetter winters. Only fools would ignore that given our known geology and recent events in WA. Sounds like the project has grown and changed since first presented. Why not? Probably a new profit threshhold, too. Hope it comes through the process and is still worth doing. We could use it.
Glad to see the USGS on the job. If you've ever lived in other countries, particularly Central and South America, you have a real respect for the safeguards we have here. Those countries are getting better about building codes. I wonder where on Montara Mountain they're placing probes.
Hutch
You do understand the hippies/noobees/nimbys, know more than the geologists, engineers, traffic planners etc etc etc.
Crap. I'm never going to get back the nanosecond I wasted reading 1101.
Well since you know everything 207 you should have seen that coming.
All you nimby "experts" know whats best, but most of you can't pull yourselves out of the squaller.
344 About your post. Babies and winds squall. People might live in squalor. Just saying.
@6:31 You are so smart ZOMG!!!! What will we ever do without your supercilious corrections on the interwebs. I can't stop quivering with joy in my pants in sheer awe of your grand posture on your high horse. AWESOME!! Keep it up!
720 Pilgrim, I'm taking no responsibility for any joy in your pants, but I'll do what I can to lift you out of your 'squaller'. That's the way it's gotta be.
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