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Good, I hope he bankrupts the city. It will be the first positive thing he ever did for Pacifica.
But I do hope we still get the new highway.
Who can forget the looks on the faces of our esteemed City Council who sat there and refused to allow public hearings on the DEIR, thinking they could sandbag the citizens. It takes a lawsuit to get this Council to do their jobs thanks Len Stone, thanks Mary Ann for your sucking up to your developer cohorts and ignoring the citizens.
11:49 what developer cohorts. Nothing has been built in Pacifica on Mary Ann's and Len's watch.
These two have systematically destroyed any economy we may have been able to build over the last 30 years. Now they are in the process of creating another hurdle. To sue the city before the FEIR is even out is ridiculous unless your plan is to just delay as long as possible with the hope that CALTRANS loses interest and goes away. Brilliant! How has that worked out for Pacifica? What is your real objective? I can't believe it's just the highway.
Keeping the coast rural? We're the northern outpost of that campaign, but that would be my guess.
This is a very sorry turn of events that I perdicted would happen months ago. I will not make any further comments until I have an opportunity to speak to Peter myself. We don't usually agree on very much but I consider him a friend and I respect him as a person and want to know why he is doing this.
as long as you're here Chris can you tell us the position of the CoC on the UUT tax? I hope for the sake of small businesses here they will oppose it.
Time to remove Loeb as Fog Fest President. God knows what kind of damage he's doing there.
The city should counter sue them for attorney fees. Bankrupt them like how these two are working on bankrupting the city.
Hutch...Peter Loeb has done a fantastic job as the Fog Festival president, a job that has more headaches then glory. Just because you disagree with him, please don't negate his positive contributions. The Chamber of Commerce has not taken any formal stance. We are still gathering information to pass on to our members.
Chris, your friend Peter Loeb has done irreversible damage to this city over the years. The Fog Fest committee has a lot of fine people on it. Looking at Loeb's record I doubt he has been good for the FF. It's time to remove him.
Loeb is consistent and he's been a smart, formidable adversary of development for decades. He believes he's right. This lawsuit is no surprise.
Once again Pacificans don't' want to grow. Don't want progress.
He is being sent by the council. We know all their tricks.
Are you OK, 9:54?
yeah 954 Loeb is a triple agent working for council and you're a flying squirrel.
Peter Loeb is the immediate past president of the Fog Fest Organizing Group. Larry Passmore is the current president.
So, plenty of free time to file a lawsuit.
Peter Loeb...Skyline College
Who ever connects the dots... gets a beer
2 or 3 if I am in a good mood!
Keep your beer and your unhealthy fixation.
9:16
Nice post Peter!
Chris Porter
Why are you defending Peter Loeb? The very person who was mayor and put the poison pill on the quarry.
You should probably look up what a poison pill really is. You look beyond dumb when you use it in connection with the quarry.
1:03
Loeb your not as smart as you think you are:
Poison pills are used for companies to block hostile take overs.
They are used in the NBA to make a contract so bad no team will match.
They are used in real estate and zoning to block development.
http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/221754/Licensing+Syndication/Acquisitions+And+IP+Licenses+Looking+Out+For+Poison+Pill+Affiliate
Yeah, I know what a poison pill is, dumbass. You're the one throwing around the term where it doesn't apply.
How has the property been made to self-destruct (aka taking the "poison") upon changing hands? That's right, it's not.
The land is zoned in such a way that it requires a public vote to redesignate as residential. That's NOT a poison pill no matter how many times you repeat it, you hayseed property manager.
Oh looky........
a pompous, know-it-all prick calling a regular citizen (not of enviro Pacifican royalty) a hayseed property manager.
Doesn't it figure. It was and still is a poison pill. Look how many times it has wasted away anyone's efforts to develop it. Let's not forget that for at lease 2 decades it was available as a redevelopment zone which would have greatly enhanced the revenue coming directly to Pacifica. Now our faux-enviros want to turn it into a dog shit park.
Finish remodeling your shack, sell it for a huge profit and get the fuck outta here would you.
J.A.'s gonna bust a gasket. Too bad he's 100% wrong.
5:21
If I were you, I would focus on your horrible reputation around town.
and I would make sure my father in law didn't find out who I really was online so I wouldn't lose out on free crab sandwiches
Since when is democracy a 'poison pill'? If somebody wants to build housing in the quarry they just have to come up with a plan that a majority of voters want.
753, one of the priority issue of the 2006 anti-quarry development campaign was "traffic".
But, with available highway 1 widening (studied and funded), the "traffic" congestion issue can get fixed.
Thanks for another reason to support needed highway 1 widening through the 1.3 mile (2 intersection) bottleneck.
As for the quarry housing "poison bill" (to avoid building any housing), that NIMBY change occurred during City Council majority rule in the 1980s, when Peter Loeb was Mayor (I think).
For others, do us all a favor, and don't vote for any NIMBIES for City Council, (if you support a sustainable city, vs no city).
753, a good example of what you consider artificial "democracy" in this City too often turns out to be spin through local and (even regional) mob propaganda rule. The ongoing "nothing for Pacifica" results are clear enough: Pacifica has lost more than half its land, and does not thrive economically, financially, or socially.
Time for you and your Gang of No to support fixing these City structural inadequacies you've worked so hard to create. So, what significant development for the benefit of City sustainability will you support?
A democratic vote is "mob propaganda rule?"
You can't make this stuff up, folks!
935, some of us live here, we get it. And, we see the results.
What significant development for the benefit of City sustainability will you support?
Since you have avoided the question (which I've periodically asked several times on this blog), the ongoing response from all of you seems to be: NONE.
What a drag on the sustainable progress of this City you all are.
Voting is Undemocratic - and how do you like this one? Pacifica has "lost" more than half its land. Ahahahahaha.
It's all that darn useless open space.
They lost the quarry vote. Their candidates for office are getting voted out or rejected. Officers from the Chamber of Commerce that share their views were kicked out of their leadership positions. If a vote about the highway widening were taken today they'd lose that too.
Their views are of an increasingly shrinking minority in this town and they're pissed about it. If their arguments had any merit, they'd lay them out, but instead they just shout "nimby" for the millionth time and take farcical positions anout voting.
And every time they do it, they increasingly marginalize themselves. You can even point this out to them -- like I am right now -- but they'll never change. This is their echo chamber. They're incapable of it.
Anger, fear, and an unwavering belief in the miraculous healing powers of asphalt and cement. That's all they've got. And it's not enough. Not even close.
"What significant development for the benefit of City sustainability will you support?"
I support the construction of a $5.5 million Path To Nowhere, just like you do, Kathy.
Actually, Kathy's question places her beliefs into stark relief: that only through more development can the city maintain sustainability. But of course, this is a nonsensical position on the face of it. You can only develop so much until you can't develop any more...and rhen what?
More importantly, it demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the coast's economic environment. We are unable to sustain our EXISTING businesses. There are vacancies replete throughout our business districts, but somehow MORE businesses will place us on the path to sustainability?
As for the quarry housing "poison bill" (to avoid building any housing), that NIMBY change occurred during City Council majority rule in the 1980s, when Peter Loeb was Mayor (I think).
For others, do us all a favor, and don't vote for any NIMBIES for City Council, (if you support a sustainable city, vs no city).
Yes this happened when Peter Loeb was Mayor. Right after Fred Howard. The group of no or gang of no then was Friends of the Hills.
"It's all that darn useless open space."
I imagine them shaking their fists in impotent rage when they look at the beautiful hillsides.
And can you imagine how pissed off they must be that they're unable to pave the ocean?
Very true, we cannot support the businesses we have, let alone more. The coast lacks the population and accessibility to support big shopping centers. You need only look at our existing shopping areas to know that. Is that a problem or an inescapable part of being a suburb in 2015? What's the solution? The pro-development crowd would say we need more population. That means more housing and greater accessibility. Who wants that? People who'd profit from it in some way and others they've drawn to their cause with the old fable "development will save us". When push comes to shove, pro-development forces on the coast fail because more people value and want to protect this incredible area we live in-and they'll do that at almost any cost. Not a lot of compromise. And as homes become more valuable and the small town vibe ever more appreciated, the compromises will be fewer. The proof is in the abundance of protected open space, the victory of tunnel over bypass, the carefully measured land use positions taken by local governments and their planning commissions, the dedication of local watchdog groups, the long history of effective environmental activism, the state and federal regulation of the coast. Let's add opposition to widening the highway to that list. The evidence is overwhelming. These are not aberrations, the result of voter indifference, political conspiracy or coup. It's the will of the people. Or, as it's known on Fix Pacifica, mob rule.
1:37 -- Yep. The people have spoken time and again and have rejected the Daly City vision that pro-developers advocate for Pacifica.
The opposition will say they don't want Pacifica to turn into Daly City, but wider highways, increased housing density, hillside development, a Westlake shopping center type project for the quarry. Everything the stand for describes Daly City.
Of course, if individuals want what Daly City has to offer, they're free to go live there, but the majority of Pacificans are here precisely because it's NOT Daly City.
Those that advocate for development try to split the baby and promise that there's a way to commercialize Pacifica without Pacifica losing it's special character, but voters have seen through this facade and have spoken at the ballot box time and again.
Pacificans don't want what the YESSIES are selling and instead of facing up to this they just get really really mad and stomp their feet a lot. There's not a lot of self-actualizing going on with that crew and instead a lot of conspiratorial circling of the wagons going on. They're so, so angry they just can't force their will on everyone and pour cement willy-nilly. It's all a bit sad, really. They all seem so unhappy with life in general.
10:01
My father in law lives in SF
Please sleep it off.
One of our past city council members lived on the other side of the tunnel right up until he came over to Pacifica to file for city council.No one bothered to look into this. He also had a dispute with another long time Pacifican. No one looked into this. He also wouldn't endorse a fellow business owners run for city council.
Yet this weasel was on city council for one full term.
Okay 2:33, your job is to go look into this. Report back when you can and Godspeed.
Not so fast 337. Has the whale left already? Flag it down! 233 needs a ride. He has important work to do.
227 Are you saying you have to pay for your crab sammies? Hey, no father ever thinks anyone is good enough for his little girl. Sometimes they're absolutely right.
I had a lobster roll at Sams a couple weeks ago (I had to pay for it. OMG, the best!) Way better than Nick's crab sandwich. Sorry, Big Banker :(
4:16 Shouldn't you be at work, oh wait never mind.
4:32 Have another beer.
Way better and Sam's has fewer walkers, canes and shellacked dusty fish on the walls. I do like breakfast at Nick's.
5:12 -- sounds good. See you at your father-in-laws place.
This thread is confusing me. Perhaps I am not sufficiently plugged in to local gossip, but could someone please explain the crab sammies and lobster roll comments. In other words, why have Nicks and Sam's been dragged into this discussion.
6:27
Because Pacifica is a town full of classless dolts. Sams isn't even In Pacifica? Why they bring Nick's into it, I will never understand.
But the mantra around Pacifica, is, hate anyone who makes money, so that may be part of it.
jealousy is the biggest form of flattery.
642 What? I thought imitation was the sincerest form of flattery. Oh well, if you say so, epitome of refinement. Then, me thinks you seethe with flattery or something.
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