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Check out these 2012 numbers. I looked only at the senior staff and dept heads and compared them to about 7 SMC towns, including San Bruno. Used the total comp number which includes everything. Pretty clear we're not paying more than other cities. Our average wage and total payroll numbers bear that out. Unfortunately, it seems we can't even afford to pay these "low-competitive" wages without another tax or painful cuts. Worth noting, however, that the quality of the work force hasn't suffered due to our low-competitive wages and vacancies were filled. Not at all surprised about that. These are great jobs in any market.
Other cities have revenue producing projects. Pacifica, does not. I don't see anything coming down the 'pike either.
That Mercury News site is lame compared with the State site. It doesn't show average wages for each town. Or am I missing something?
The State site DOES show average pay for Pacifica is $10,000 more a year than several neighboring cities
Check it out http://publicpay.ca.gov/Reports/Cities/Cities.aspx
Pacifica'a average wage for city employees is higher than all these towns
$43,868 Brisbane
$44,023 SSF
$47,988 San Carlos
$45,860 Menlo Park
$48,133 Pacifica
The average salary numbers really don't mean much unless all the cities have comparable numbers and types of jobs.
If Pacifica laid off all its low-paid lifeguards while other cities still have them, it makes Pacifica's average salary look much higher than for other cities.
Maybe it would be better to take the top 25 or 50 salaries in each city and compare those averages.
People just don't get what an average is.
In colloquial language average usually means the sum of a list of numbers divided by the size of the list
That wouldn't work Steve because larger cities will have more higher paid employees, more police sergeants, captains, Firemen etc..
The only way to accurately judge is by each job position. Pretty hard.
But I noticed Godbe Research offered a service online that compares all this information. You think our council will share that with us?
Averaging out salaries is a super big red herring. In Pacifica foe example there are pages and pages of part time employees for Parks and Rec among others that make as little as $500 a year.
We have currently 130 full time people and of those over 86 make north of 100k a year. That means more than half of our full time employees make between 100k and 200k, before benefits.
Similarly, cherry-picking the cities with higher average salaries offers little value.
The top 25 or 50 would probably only be helpful for like-sized cities. One would expect someone leading a much larger organization to be paid more
We're not paying more, but we still cannot afford to pay what we are paying. That's the problem. There's zero political will, and honestly, probably no practical ability to pay less. Same old problem with no additional revenue source in sight, none, other than the taxpayers. Same old problem.
Todd makes sense. If you'e going to average do it with full time workers only.
I was curious, not scientific. I took 5 cities Pac pop 37K, SB pop41K, SC pop 28K, FC pop31K and SSF pop64K and just compared the highest 20 total comp numbers. Paid no attention to job title although I noticed it's consistently senior staff, dept heads and fire or police in those first 20.
We are far below SB, FC and SSF. More than 20%. With San Carlos the balance shifts mid-way and Pac pays slightly more. Like I said not scientific but interesting.
Big changes in council total comp. in 2012. No sign of Stone so he's still working for free. In order,
Nihart $21,879
Pete $21,524
Digre $8,614
Jaquith $6,010
Vreeland $2,059
Ms. Digre took a big cut and we saved money on the Vree/Jaquith deal. So instead of the typical $100K for 5, they cost us about
$60K.
We are far below SB, FC and SSF. More than 20%. With San Carlos the balance shifts mid-way and Pac pays slightly more
These cities have revenue producing projects. SSF has Genentech and 80 other Biotech companies. San Bruno has the Bayhill Office Park, Foster City Has Visa and San Carlos put up a nice office complex where the Circle Star Theatre was.
Difference these cities are proactive instead of being reactive like Pacifica.
Just realized the reason San Carlos looked like it paid less than Pacifica in many of those first 20 salaries is that they have no cops. Went to the county! Anyhow, the difference was only 2-3% even with that quirk.
@212 Yeah, real hard to find another SMC city as underdeveloped as Pacifica. The fact remains, we pay less in that very unscientific sample. Significantly less. And still we attract good employees who want to work here! Would they work for even less? Like for a salary this city could afford? We'll never know.
Another one. Comparing Pac to EPA, first 20 salaries (total comp), Pacifica pays approx. 6-15% less. EPA population is 28K.
We're not paying too much relative to what other similar size cities pay. We're paying too much relative to what we can afford to pay.
EPA also saw the problem. Murder capital of the United States. They cleaned up the Whiskey Gulch area and came in and bought all the houses in the area knocked them down and put in a mall with an Ikea and Home Depot. On the other side of 101 a 4 star hotel.
Gentrification. Haha, pacifica could use a little of that.
@3:39 pm: What part of Pacifica should we knock down to build us an Ikea and a Home Depot? Maybe the front part of Linda Mar so that no one will actually have to live near that planned sewer overflow pond ? Why not builkd the overflow pond on that empty five acre field on Pedro Point? I keep hearing how those residents all have their noses in the air. Now they would have good reason.
Outstanding!
I should have been a Pacifica teacher!!! Man they have it nice. Lots of money and time off. Must be nice!!!
Never too late for a career-change. Teaching would rock your world!
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