Saturday, February 4, 2017

Pacifica's NIMBYS tie up 4009 Palmetto project with red tape


Victor Carmichael and others are suing Pacifica with Hal Bohner’s help. 

They are falsely claiming that Pacifica didn’t properly issue the permits for a 4 unit building at 4009 Palmetto. More specifically, they are demanding Pacifica require an EIR (Environmental Impact Report) that typically cost around $150k.
 
An EIR is only required when there is an unavoidable significant impact on the environment. The Coastal Commission and Pacifica have determined there are no significant impacts. This was based on many biologist, geologist, traffic engineers, civil engineers, and structural engineers.Hal and Victor are basing their determination of a significant impact on the environment from the gut.
 
The San Pedro Bridge replacement, the current sewage equalization basin project at the skate park, Holiday Inn Express didn’t and don’t require an EIR!
 
The others are Joan Arthur, Noel Blincoe, Barbara Culp, John Curtis, Nancy Davis, Charin Garcia, Caroline Herter, David Hirzel, Helen Karr, Bonnie Keana, Celeste Langille, Leo Leon, Joyce Massola, Kristen Lindquist, Judy McCarthy, Diane Parks, Steven Rhodes, Mary Shapiro, Dawn Summers, William Trichon, Carol Young.

These are the hypocrites who block housing and then blame developers and landlords for the lack of housing supply and resultant high housing costs in the Bay Area.

Here is the appeal form.
 



Posted by Steve Sinai with info provided by Dave Blackman

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

Pay attention to how the illegitimate majority Keener, Deirdre and Digre rule on this.
Their strings are being pulled by their faux-enviro puppetmasters.
This is not much different than the Trump hijacking of America.
Meanwhile while this same illegitimate anti-development council majority is trying to burden a tiny minority of property owners to force a rent control tax to pay for their faux empathy for the under-housed in Pacifica. No wonder the stupids in America voted for Trump.

David Blackman said...

The project property has NO environment sensitive habitats or plants. No geological constraints. The project is zoned for three story multi-family dwellings like my neighbors.

Before starting this project I requested by phone and in writing to meet with the 90+ condo residents above. Only 4 showed up at their club house and were sad to hear I wanted to use my property for people to live on, but were glad I was not building as dense and large as their own dwellings!!

The property is zoned for 4-10 units. I proposed 4 single story 400 sq.ft. cottages. with living roofs. While I was not blocking any views, I thought the living roofs would be costly but very neighborly.

Hal Bohner actually argued at the first meeting of six public hearings that they were too small for no reason other than to be an obstructionist. I met with Hal Bohner and Victor Carmichael several times trying to please them. They wanted to teach my neighbors (the fish lots and the bowl lot) a lesson by kicking me down.

There is an Arroyo Willow, which are everywhere in Pacifica, located in the public right of way. The water feeding the arroyo willow is leaking from maintained drainage system from Highway 1. This Arroyo Willow is considered a wetland indicating plant by the Coastal Commission. The Coastal Commission has already approved this project unanimously and publicly congratulated the project for working with them.

I will prevail in court but at a great expense to me and Pacifica.

Anonymous said...

FixPacifica is upside-down land, constantly comparing the lefty Bernie voting wing in town to Donald Trump. You do remember that Trump is a real estate developer, right? Sue Vaterlaus and Mike O'neill are not only monetarily supported by realtors, they are actual realtors themselves. Nationwide, realtors chose Trump 60% to 40%. Trump's anti-environmental, pro development policies actually mirror those of the FixPacifica crowd, and the anonymous untruths regularly slung ("illigitimate") here are similar to Trump's alternate fact filled tweets.

Anonymous said...

These people are the enemies of Pacifica. For no good reason other than they can and "they've already got theirs, screw everyone else" they obstruct and continue to tear our city and good honest hardworking citizens like Dave Blackman down. I have seen severral of Dave's projects and they are all top notch, high quality and well designed structures.
Dave, I hope you sue these bastards for damages and drain their bank accounts just like they've done hundreds of times to non-members of their cult.
When will this crap ever stop?

Steve Sinai said...

12:33, A REALTOR® is not the same thing as a real estate developer. Anyway, using your logic, a few Muslim terrorists mean all Muslims are terrorists.

Anonymous said...

Anyone see or know what happened at Oceana High School yesterday( Saturday ) around 5 pm with about 20 police and a couple ambulances?

Anonymous said...

"A REALTOR® is not the same thing as a real estate developer."

This post is pro real estate development, and the lawsuit is anti real estate development, the realtors support real estate development, the two realtors on the city council support real estate development. Donald Trump is a real estate developer. It is clear what side of this issue is on Donald's side, any attempt to argue otherwise is blatant Orwellian doublespeak.

Anonymous said...

"One group that is very familiar with Republican presidential candidate and real estate developer Donald Trump, America's Realtors, overwhelmingly support his candidacy, according to a poll taken at the National Association of Realtors legislative convention in Washington.

The Tuesday poll showed Realtors picking Trump over Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton 60 percent to 40 percent."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2590899

Anonymous said...

12:33 Get a grip genious. A shoemaker is not an employee in a shore store.
The only valid parallels in this town are the faux-enviros' willingness to suspend personal integrity and not say a peep about the voter manipulation and suppression they employed to dump Mary Ann and replace her with their puppet, Deirdre Martin.
These pretentious, moral high-grounders are in fact just as hypocritical as the phony baloney Republicans who now support Trump as our illegitament monarch.
Why don't you make it right and step down Deirdre? Every thing you say and everything you do for the duration of your term is an offense to our democracy.

Anonymous said...

False analogy. Realtors and real estate developers are both part of the real estate industry.

Steve Sinai said...

A farmer and supermarket cashier are both part of the food industry. I guess that means they must think alike.

Anonymous said...

That's like saying a judge and criminal think alike because they are in the same courtroom.

Anonymous said...

Remember, this is in response to a pro-development anonymous local repeatedly comparing Trump to environmentalists. If you want to get outraged over bad comparisons, that would be a good place to start.

If you don't like Trump, great! About 75% of Pacifica voters agree with you. Just remember that realtors as an industry are extremely supportive of Trump and his anti-enviro, anti-regulation, global warming denying policies, while environmentalists are firmly committed to standing up to him.

Anonymous said...

The people in this town really are pathetica. Even those of you who seem to get it, really don't. You want development yet you cannot seem to reconcile the fact that at the local level, at least, you are very much like Trump. But that just kills you, doesn't it? You cannot stand the fact that these baby killing, planet killing, minority hating a-holes known as Republicans are supported by close to half the population in this country, and in many ways they think just like you. Awful isn't it? Well, boo-hoo! Get over it. He is not anti-enviro, anti-regulation and global warming denying as your repulsive mantra so claims. That is a lie fabricated by many of you Dems who would say anything to win and put a criminal like Hillary Clinton in office. Heck, you would put David Duke in office if he wore the (D) label. In fact, you already did such repeatedly with your re-elections of known former KKK Grand wizard Robert Byrd. At least the Repubs had the integrity to boot its criminals, like Nixon, out of office.

Contrary to your ignorant nonsense, Trump really doesn't want to poison the air and water of which he and his family actually require for survival. I mean, do you actually think he breathes different air? Calling him anti environment just because he challenges the extreme environmentalism and its crippling regulations (like we see here in Pacifica) is hypocritical at best.

If you want to complain about Trump because he doesn't want to ask the taxpayers to subsidize birth control pills for Sandra Fluke, be my guest. But please stop with the ignorant lies and at least give the guy a chance - as many of us tried to do with Obama. Then, after 8 years, perhaps you will have earned the right to label his presidency an "epic fail", as we can so rightfully do with Obama. But I doubt it...

(This will probably be censored by FP as has been the case with many of my other counter-point comments)

Kathy Meeh (Realtors are needed, and support our community) said...

105, 915, 1233 (2/4), Trump tactics almost perfectly compare to Pacifica faux-environmentalists in this city, including your "doublespeak" false local comparison comments.

Most Realtors in this City/Region I know continue to improve their community, and clearly help clients find a home or housing. Most of us who live in a home or housing appreciate Realtors and related professionals, and are thankful for their efforts.

BTW, what kind of work do you do, so (in return) others may build a smear campaign against you and your job? After all, it's only fair.
The campaign against YOU (and possibly a few other deceitful NIMBIES) won't need to be false like your anonymous CS campaign (on this thread). Such information will "stink" of course (because it's about YOU), but the comments at least should be fair, relevant and true.

Anonymous said...

This is generally very bad neighborly of the NIMBYs. This is the kind of obstinate unreasonableness that feeds into emotions leading to rise of people like Trump.

Yes NIMBYs, you need to get off your mighty horse and start being reasonable with your neighbors and local businesses.



Anonymous said...

That's right NIMBYS you need to take advice from an anonymous person on Fix Pacifica.

Anonymous said...

10:00am Impossible for faux-enviro elites to get off their high horses. They have convinced themselves that they are the smartest people in the room therefore only their opinions matter. Ask Deirdre, she reminded us in every stump speech leading up to her illegitimate victory that she was "very smart" (and somehow entitled cuz her baby died????).
NOBY's - enemies of Pacifica. Trump - enemy of America.

Anonymous said...

11:39 I heard many of Deirdre's speeches, and she never referred to herself as "very smart". You know who else would spew alternative facts like that? Donald Trump. Mocking her for her baby's tragic death? Very Trumpian. Calling her illegitimate? Extremely Trumpish. And accusing the other side of being what you are being while you accuse them of being it? Congratulations, that's as Trumpy as you can get! I call that Quadruplespeak, to coin a term.

wake up Pacifica said...

7:42 YOU're lying and spreading alternative facts. Even if you heard just one of her speeches and stayed around for her closing statement you would have heard all about how "smart she is" and her cheap grab for sympathy votes with her dead baby story.
Sad but true, she is just another in the long line of psychopaths and sociopaths to sit on Pacifica council over the years. Thus a very screwed up town still being controlled by a shameless faux-enviro cult. We could be a case study in how and why America could possibly be duped by a con man like Trump.

Anonymous said...

Wow, now you're calling our council psychopaths and sociopaths? How very Trumpian of you!

Pacifica Politifact said...

Just watched the PCT forum, she never makes a reference to how smart or intelligent she is in the closing statements, nor does she bring up her child. She does tout her experience as a commissioner and project manager, and say she's a good listener, typical candidate-speak. I give this lie four pinnochios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-OvHCLv3vE

Anonymous said...

11:58 Wrong Reggie. If and when I have time or feel like it, I'll direct you to one of her many famous "I'm really smart" and "dead baby" stump speeches. You must be a faux-enviro sycophant.

Anonymous said...

You said if we heard "even one" of her closing arguments we would have heard her bragging about how smart she is. The PCT forum closing arguments contain no such thing, so you're already proven wrong. I also watched her Environmental Forum closing arguments for good measure, no mention of how smart she is there either. Typical Trumpian lies with nothing but vague threats to back them up someday "If and when you feel like it".

Anonymous said...

9:38 silly faux-enviro sycophant...
Watch Candidates Forum sponsored by Pacifica Democrats @ Sharp Park Golf Course Country Club. Watch Candidates Forum sponsored by Pacificans for Fair Rents @ Council Chambers.
These are two from my memory and there were more.
Stop lying to everyone about your illegitament candidate.
Start apologizing to Pacifica for the unethical blocking of Mary Ann Nihart and the perversion of our democratic voting rights. Even Jackie Speiers has voiced displeasure of the your abuse of the Hatch Act.

Anonymous said...

9:24 After a bit of searching it appears that those two forums aren't online. The two that are online refute your claim. It appears you are going by memory here, which appears to be pretty faulty, since you accuse me of "lying" when all I have done is research your claims and report the results. Here's a tip, if you want to accuse Deirdre of saying something, find the tape of her saying it and provide the link in that post, it's not that complicated. Otherwise you're just an opinionated blowhard who misinterprets the visceral hatred of opposing viewpoints as evidence of evil, when the evil is actually between your ears.

Anonymous said...

7:08 Watch Deirdre campaign on youtube - "how smart she is and her baby died".

09/27/16 Pacifica Public Forum - City Concerns @ 33:40

10/06/16 Pacifica Environmental Family - Candidate Forum @ 5:50 and @ 49:20

10/08/16 PCC-AAUW American Assoc. of University Women @ 4:40 and @ 1:13:30

10/13/16 PCT/TRIBUNE - Candidate Forum @ 7:00

Sounds like a narcissistic, manipulator to me? Perfect puppet for the faux-enviros.

Anonymous said...

7:08 w
Waza matter for you? Can't stand the truth?

Anonymous said...

2:38

Uh, none of those are links.

Anonymous said...

Since the PCT forum is the one I already found, I will focus on your example from that, at the 7:00 mark. Here's Deirdre's exact quote:

"I am surrounded by a lot of people with a lot of passion for our natural environment, and I realized it's not just out natural environment, it's our human environment. And I realized this in 2014 when my husband and I lost our daughter at birth and we were so surrounded by our community. You would have never known that both of our families lived far away. We were lifted up, we had meals at our door, we had memorial beach cleanups, we had people picking us up, taking us out of the house, and we knew we were in the right place!"

Anyone who finds that beautiful, heartfelt story of community coming together in the face of personal tragedy evidence of a "narcissistic manipulator" and a "psychopath" must have some serious emotional issues and should seek therapy immediately.

Anonymous said...

Death at birth. Tragic. But I wonder how so many of you who are so saddened by this can reconcile your callous attitude regarding late term abortion? From the perspective of the new life, what's the difference? I guess you think its perfectly okay for the mother to be the killer rather than unfortunate circumstance.

Kathy Meeh (re: your "dead" comment) said...

817, you've taken the loss of a baby at childbirth into far right-wing "late term abortion", which is ideological crazy.
With regard to your comment, google search for basic information is "why late term abortion". Example, easy to read article follows:

USA Today/Kim Painter/Special, 10/21/16, "... Late-term abortion explained."
1. "Q: How common are late-term abortions? A: ... 1.3% happened after 21 weeks, more than half-way through a 40-week pregnancy ... more than 90%, occur in the first 13 weeks...
2. Q: Why would anyone get a late-term abortion? A: ... severe fetal abnormalities, discovered late by ultrasound or genetic tests, or a health crisis for the woman.
Virtually all abortions past 24 weeks are performed for “very severe” birth defects, Jen Gunter, a San Francisco obstetrician and gynecologist, wrote in a blog post. ...
3. Q: Is the procedure really performed up until the last days of pregnancy? A: 'That is not happening in the United States,' ... 'There are no nine-month abortions,” Gunter said. There are situations in which labor is induced because of problems in the last month of pregnancy, but “at 38 or 39 weeks it’s always an induction and is simply called a delivery,' she said."

To be really fair, because women have been having babies since the beginning of history, time to flip that job to the men-- which might increase the elective abortion rate. As your hero (from your view) says, "Bad!"

Anonymous said...

Seriously? This thread has turned into abortion? WTF does that have to do with Pacifica?

Anonymous said...

The incredible hypocrisy here is that if God chooses to end the fetus' life, the entire community comes together and mourns. But if the mother chooses to end its life, there are many in this community who will applaud. Go figure...

Anonymous said...

4:44 I've never heard anyone applauding an abortion. You're an ass.

Anonymous said...

@6:08 -
https://youtu.be/28oKZYXFx8M?t=39s

Anonymous said...

7:11 She was giving a speech at the Democratic National Convention. Did you even hear anything she said?

Anonymous said...

"I've never heard anyone applauding an abortion"

Obviously, you don't allow yourself to hear the applause or you rationalize it as something else.

Anonymous said...

9:40. Your original comment was "there are many in this community who will applaud." That's not true, and it's offensive.
The speech at the DNC is not this community and you take it out of context anyway.

Kathy Meeh (your idea of a god mirrors you) said...

Yeah, 2/11, 817, 444 your final solution attitude for "killer" women who terminate their pregnancy is simply sterile.
247 did post an appropriate human response link to your comment, and that video was followed by others. Very good!

Something about building a 4 unit apartment development drove this conversation by Troll to human reproduction?

Anonymous said...

@2:47-

The speech at the DNC is not representative of this community? You've got to be kidding me! First you say you never heard anyone applaud abortions and then after I provide you an irrefutable example, you use twisted, tortured logic to conclude that no one in this town would ever do so and that that is your original point. Well, that's a first! I have seen nothing but vitriol and offensive speech directed at anything conservative/Republican - most notably the newly elected President and the 50% of this country who voted for him. And it doesn't end there. In fact, I see the same offensive speech directed at Deidre and her supporters - all extremely liberal Democrats. So it would appear that anyone you and your ilk disagree with deserves your unfettered nastiness and dismissiveness. This intolerance for those on the other side of an issue is underscored by the time that Republicans were actually denied the opportunity to purchase a booth at the Fog Fest! I know this to be true because I knew one of the applicants. I suppose you are going to tell me it's all a "contextual" misunderstanding. Those responsible for this decision, and those who supported them, should hang their heads in shame. I guess "freedom of speech" only applies to those who agree with you.

Anonymous said...

6:34
Thanks for Deirdre's exact quote.... Trouble is she used this canned speech at every forum.
The first time seemed sincere. After a half dozen times it became a disrespectful sympathy bit leveraging off the death of a baby. Then there was always the closer, "I'm really smart".
Good God just what Pacifica needs, another Vreeland.
The important thing is that it tickles the ass feathers of the faux-enviro cult.

Kathy Meeh ("contextual" what???) said...

445, get a grip your hero Trump is an alpha predator, a liar, nuts, and dangerous. Plus he's a divider and a cheater-- a real deal maker, who stiffs others.
Thanks to fake news, Russia, gerrymandering etc. Trump won with 46.1% of the vote (Clinton lost with 48.2% of the majority, popular vote (CNN reported).
Politicus USA, "Trump won with one of the lowest percentages of the popular vote in history." (The article quotes the still incomplete percentage as 46.5%.)

In San Mateo County, my recall is the vote for Trump was about 20%, in San Francisco County about 10%.
But the issue this time is less about Republican vs. Democrat range of viewpoints, and more about 1) nuts, authoritarian and incompetence vs. 2) sane, "better together" and competent. Unfortunately for all of us the national Trump smear campaign worked in favor of 1) nuts, etc.

You're complaining about "unfettered nastiness and dismissiveness...intolerance"-- and about someone you know being denied (paying for) a Fog Fest booth (?)--
yet YOU rail against a woman's legal right to protect her life against an unwanted pregnancy.

It follows that what you may claim is your "conservative" view, in reality may be a spectrum of intolerance and lack of sensitivity for human beings outside your bigoted ideology.
BTW, why was "someone you know" really denied that Fog Fest booth? Was it the KKK banner that gave it the thumps down?



Anonymous said...

@1:41- Your last post shows a complete disregard for the truth and a complete inability to comprehend what I said. You played every possible "hate card" and left no Democratic/liberal cliché untouched. Your misunderstanding of President Trump and those who support him leave you in a time warped hole that you will probably never crawl out of. Congratulations! Oh, I have no doubts you will justify in your own uber biased mind spamming this comment. It's what you liberals do to terminate the debate when you are losing - which is usually the case. Hint: it's almost impossible to win a debate when my side deals with facts and reason and yours deals only in emotions. But I'll give you this: you are excellent at community organizing and dividing this country through your intolerance of those who disagree with you.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and regarding the KKK banner: I didn't realize Senator Robert Byrd was still alive and living in Pacifica...

Anonymous said...

"It's what you liberals do to terminate the debate when you are losing - which is usually the case. Hint: it's almost impossible to win a debate when my side deals with facts and reason and yours deals only in emotions."

Thanks for the big laffs.

Anonymous said...

645 02/12/17 You actually heard her say it 6 or 7 times? Or took a survey? Sent your wingman? You seem a little bit obsessive-stalky.

Anonymous said...

Team Kathy! And Happy Valentine's Day to us all. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood! Fingers-crossed that #45 implodes rather than explodes and does it soon.

Anonymous said...

3:57 watch the you tubes I listed and then you can say you saw her say it 6 or 7 times.
Unless of course you don't want to be confused with the facts.

Anonymous said...

Dan is the only dude who manages to instantly reveal himself when posting anonymously. I don't know how he manages to be so so bad at opinions. Like, poo-poo pee-pee bad. And that's pretty bad!

Anonymous said...

713 Um, how often do you watch her on YouTube? I think you need a Valentine's Day Upgrade because that sounds like love.

Anonymous said...

9:47 Actually I think you are the one in love with Deirdre. I'm a conscientious citizen who is paying attention to the abuses of our democratic system perpetrated by Deirdre and her puppet masters. Pacifica got screwed out of a very capable and strong advocate for Pacifica when they foisted the bullshit Hatch Act technicality on Mary Ann. As noted by Jackie Speire, Kevin Mullin, Don Horsley, and Jerry Hill, this was a deliberate stunt by the faux-enviro cult, unfortunately within the too broad legal bounds of the Hatch Act but definitely outside of the moral bounds of a fair and ethical election. The hypocrites who persistently feign moral and intellectual superiority over all the rest of us regular folks have no shame about their ill gotten theft of the 3-2 majority vote. Instead they celebrate their hoax that promises to keep Pacifica in a perpetually run down and nearly bankrupt state.
Keener, Deirdre and Digre will faithfully obey the cult of "I got mine, screw everyone else" and deliver our town to their extremely selfish puppet masters. They call themselves friends of Pacifica truth be known they are the enemies of Pacifica.

Anonymous said...

Many of the same people who claim President Trump is an "enemy of America" also seem to contend that Deidre et al are "enemies of Pacifica". Perhaps, some day, you can be honest with yourself and reconcile the possibility that just because someone disagrees with you, or wears a different label, they are not necessarily an enemy to all that you hold near and dear. On second thought, probably not...

Anonymous said...

9:47 "As noted by Jackie Speire, Kevin Mullin, Don Horsley, and Jerry Hill, this was a deliberate stunt by the faux-enviro cult..."

There you go making stuff up again. I'm pretty sure none of them ever said anything of the sort, and I challenge you to provide a link showing otherwise. You are the local version of Donald Trump, making wild, easily disproven accusations and hoping enough people won't notice.

Anonymous said...

1149 Some people got a whole lot of enemies. Not without reason. No, scratch that. In the 942 case it would seem reason is clearly missing, although there may be an abundance of cause. Some lives suck.

Anonymous said...

On nextdoor, we are organizing neighborhood watches. Here, someone needs to organize neighborhood group hugs, because there are clearly way too many unhappy people. Take deep breaths and give thanks that the worst thing in your lives is a little traffic every now and then (a reality the rest of the Bay Area has to deal with every single day). All the other stuff you complain about on a daily basis, including the continued preoccupation with the City Council election (which Mary Ann Nihart herself has moved on from), literally makes zero difference to your every day lives. If you step away from the key board and do something other than look for reasons to be offended and to stay mad, you will find that life is actually pretty good. And, if it is not, the "not" has nothing to do with the city council election results, a four-room apartment complex that you do not own and were not planning to live in, or anything else you dwell upon here.

Kathy Meeh (sure day to day we live ordinary lives) said...

1144, there's a pattern of NIMBIES running smear election campaigns, and deflecting core fair governance issues. The Pacifica far left is right up there with the national far right: Trump tactics.

Elections matter, and 3-2 may determine progress/no progress; citizen land protection/no protection in this City.
A few examples, where progress city councilmembers make a difference: 1) widening highway 1 which is currently not happening; 2) failure of city council to support a quality 2006 quarry project; 3) decades of land transfers to federal open space, hence 4) decades of inadequate balanced City planning and funding.
More recent City Councils have voted 3-2 or even 4-1 to 1) approve reasonable development and City infrastructure projects, 2) save Sharp Park waterfront, and improve Sharp Park business district. Also, 3) thanks to San Francisco and Pacifica golfers and friends, Sharp Park Golf Course has been saved.

Anonymous said...

Kathy, I think most of the bizarro posts on this thread are trolls from the NOBY's.
As we have seen many times in the past, they will do ANYTHING to discredit others and elevate their own agendas. Sad little broken down town manipulated by self servers.