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Note: drawing and quote from the Tabatha Yeatts blog, "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference"....Elie Wiesel.
All the hippies are speaking tonight.
ReplyDeleteSchlessinger got 'escorted' out by the cops.
ReplyDeleteTodd schlessinger is my hero.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't watch earlier. What did I miss? Did they give anything else away?
ReplyDeletesafe to say council has noticed that huge flock of chickens coming home to roost in pathetica. huge.
ReplyDeleteAre those roosting chickens or breeding chickens?
ReplyDeleteproof proof show me the proof
ReplyDeleteWow the city catering to the Pacifica and Vallemar hippies.
It cracked me up watching them whine and cry about an ugly tree. Someone should hack it down in the middle of the night.
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ReplyDeleteTodd schlessinger is my hero.
February 11, 2013 at 9:53 PM
It is Tod with one T
This council just proved they are just as bad as the rest. Mayor Len, had Tod, removed cause Diana Verby, asked him too.
ReplyDeleteCatering to the hippies and Vallemar noobees will get this council voting on Bankruptcy soon!
City Council Meeting of 2/11 rerun on 2/14 at 530 and part two at 925
ReplyDeleteon PCT26. Tree huggers, council muggers, it's Must See TV!
@1009 you doubted this? you needed more proof? council is getting beat up bad, much of it deserved, and the nimby enviros are going to be right there with a shoulder to cry on and heart-to-heart chats. it's the smart play and they've always been smarter. we have a new-style enviro. it's an unholy alliance this "new" council has entered into. should surprise no one, but this being pacifica, it will. kumbaya, baby, got anything left?
ReplyDelete728 anon, So the palm tree stays in the picture, is that right? The birds get the beach, fireworks are headed for a ban, the money faucet is turned off, the town couldn't develop a zit, and the tree stays. Oh and we're beyond flat-ass broke.
ReplyDeleteYou can fix being broke, but you can't fix stupid!
Pete Shoemaker thinks he is a real estate developer. He says the quarry isn't a good place for commercial property nor housing. Build it in Colma cause they have all the traffic already.
ReplyDeleteThe man is clearly off his rocker.
The reason why the city is broke.
You know those enviros that were so soundly trounced in that election.....theeey're back. Never left is more like it. Do you think this council is any match for them? Hell, do you think this council is any different than them?
ReplyDeleteTell us how, do.
Shoemaker is a show pony. An enviro show pony.
ReplyDeleteTod's account (above) of his removal from the meeting by the Mayor "cause Diana Verby, asked him too" is fiction. Tod started out his usual Oral Communications rant by attacking Ron Maykel by name. He was looking and yelling in the direction of Ron and Dinah (not Diana) Verby, who were sitting together. Dinah said, "Mr. Mayor, he's out of order." The Mayor told Tod to direct his comments to the Council. Tod went nuts and said, "Are you going to let her get away with that?" He was then allowed to continue yelling for his full 3 minutes, in which he attacked Pete Shoemaker for Pete's comments about the quarry in Oral Communications, just like he's doing in this thread. After Tod spoke, he walked to the back of the room and had some loud words with the police chief. I don't know if the chief told Tod to leave or exactly what happened, but the Mayor did not have him removed and Dinah Verby didn't do anything to cause him to be removed. Tod got all of his 3 minutes of Oral Communications and nothing happened. All Dinah did was say he was out of order, which he was. This is typical Tod crazy distortion or reality.
ReplyDeleteYesiree, No less a luminary than Don Peebles learned all his moves from Pete Shoemaker. It's a little known fact, but Don doesn't even fart without Pete's approval. One phone call from Pete, and Don would be here just like that-- snap your fingers,...to fart in Pacifica. Just like that.
ReplyDelete@232 Calm down. The political use of crazies as poster boys, standard bearers, martyrs, etc. is a time honored tradition in America. Just because the guy is crazy doesn't mean he can't be useful.
ReplyDelete232Anon "This is typical Tod crazy distortion or reality." Freudian slip there. Distortion or reality?
ReplyDeleteNo kidding.
Just wondering, if Ms. Verby hadn't said "Mr. Mayor, he's out of order", would Mr. Mayor have done anything to stop the rant? A speaker mentioning a member of the audience by name is not unheard of here, or elsewhere. Guess it'll have to remain one of the mysteries of the universe.
ReplyDeleteCity Hall had to call the cops twice on Roger.
ReplyDeleteMr. Mayor did nothing to stop the rant. He did direct Tod to address the Council but Tod ignored him and there was no consequence. "Mentioning a member of the audience by name" is not the issue. Directly addressing people by name is out of order. In Oral Communication, you're only supposed to address the Council as a body.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Parlimentarian. I wondered what the issue was. Your input has certainly clarified that. It left no doubt.
ReplyDeleteSounds like Ms. Verby got the ball rolling on Tod. No comment from her and Mr. Mayor would have let him roll. Maybe right into something else, but that's not what happened, is it? Just saying cause and effect-- not saying right or wrong. That Dinah Verby is a good attorney, a keen observer, a smart woman.
ReplyDeleteI really wouldn't want to be on that guy's radar. Anyone who thinks people who behave like that are harmless or can be "handled" is a fool.
ReplyDeleteTod is a narcissistic exhibitionist who likes to think he is much smarter than he really is and much more important than he really is. He’s a sideshow. Makes absolutely no impact on any decision on anything. Anyone who gives him any creds on anything only encourages his behavior. If he were 10 he would be on constant time-out.
ReplyDeleteI'm against all the anti-development people who apparently can't do the simple math of where our budget stands. That said, anyone who lines up behind Tod is koo-koo for coconuts.
ReplyDeleteDr. Anon, Until you can treat him in a therapeutic setting, it might be best to leave him his illusions
ReplyDeleteso he doesn't feel the need to try harder to make an impact.
I don't recall Tod, ever stalking someone around town trying to provoking him, then trying to cry to the court for a restraining order.
ReplyDeleteWas Tod's meltdown before or after one of his targets suggested the city buy a new carpet for council chambers and tidy up the wall hangings?
ReplyDelete@742 so you're saying there's another nut out there?
ReplyDeleteFortunately Tod attends city council meetings and speaks up. He shows up and speaks up, when complaining anonymous big mouths above do not. Three minutes to address city council during oral communications or during an agenda item. With a name, anyone can speak at city council.
ReplyDeleteBecause Tod was at city council last night, he was able to counter Pete Schoemaker's idiotic comments about how great it is that the quarry has not been developed. And of course, Schoemaker's justification was the example of the defeated mixed-use Peebles Corporation project (2006). Whereas, six+ years later, that proposed money generating improvement likely would have been well under way (jobs, services, tax revenue that the city needs). The alternative, as usual we have nothing. Thanks again Pacifica NIMBIES, and Bay Area friends of NIMBIES including the Sierra Club (duh). Meantime, the quarry remains undeveloped, tax revenue to fund the city (including beneficial services) is sparse.
Here's one example of how inadequate city revenue was dramatized at last night's City Council meeting. Resource Center supporters rallied (several people spoke) to remind City Council it is important to stipend fund their essential service. But, because there is a City Council budget study session tomorrow (2/15/13) to discuss next year's budget, Mayor pro tem Nihart asked the same people to show-up again. With that request I cringed. Every year same thing over and over, deserving service organizations show-up to beg for supplemental funding. Why does the city continue to threaten such important and essential services? Better, let the city figure-out how to get economic development in this city.
As someone on here put it earlier,
ReplyDeletethis town couldn't develop a zit.
Surprise! The hippies are alive and well and still running things.
Frankly, things are so far gone, let them. Check back later.
The city gets what it deserves Bankruptcy.
ReplyDeleteI've heard plenty of oral communications where the speaker expressed undying devotion and gratitude to their fellow NIMBY's by name and to their faces in the audience. I don't recall anyone crying out of order then. Isn't crying out of order from the audience, OUT OF ORDER?
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDeleteWhen a hippie cries out of order, you are out of order.
ReplyDeleteThis council will go down as a complete 100% failure.
Just like councils in the past.
No council recap this meeting?
ReplyDelete@949 Much ado about nada. Tod was allowed to go ahead for his full 3 minutes, wasn't he? Maybe Verby's little outcry from the audience revved him up, but what else is new? Tod lives for it, he absolutely lives for it. If he got booted later, that's between him and the Chief.
ReplyDeleteTod is Tod and he is a grown up man. Like it or not he speaks the truth and with this council you almost feel like they always listen to their friends first.
ReplyDeleteTod is a good man and wants the best for Pacifica. We feel frustrated that for many years nothing is happening in Pacifica and do feel that before I die want to see the old sewer treatment turn into a productive source.
Don't judge crazy people. Something they are speaking the truth. And Tod Schlessinger is the only person that can confront the anti nothing nada for Paciifca.
@358 Hope you come from long-lived people.
ReplyDeleteListen up people... I'm going to tell you what you need to know...and I've been saying it for years. And you too MaryAnn. Maybe you think this is new, no, I'm not...but when are you going to listen even though you should. Since your new you should know, I've been knowing for years and I'm not even on council...am I right people? I've...what? That wasn't three minutes, because I'm talking and am I right people?
ReplyDeleteCredit where credit is due. The minutes on Index show Council voted to let pg&e cut the palm tree down in vallemar. Took 5 years but they finally got their priorities straight. Public safety 1st.
ReplyDeleteGood work and don't stop there.
Only in Pacifica, it takes 5 years to decide to cut down an ugly tree.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone wonder why the town is broke and headed towards bankruptcy?
Not at all. The reasons remain crystal clear.
ReplyDeleteTo be clear, the tree is not being cut down because it's ugly. It's being cut down because it poses a fire hazard in a densely populated, forested, hard to access neighborhood. For council to argue over ugly for 5 years is ok. For council to avoid action to eliminate a recognized public safety hazard is negligence. There are more of those trees posing the same threat in that area.
ReplyDeleteThe city wanted to pave the streets in Vallemar but Nancy Hall asked them not to. She wanted Vallemar to be rustic and dirt roads.
ReplyDeleteThis is how Pacifica Lives.
you gotta wonder how one little hippie chick ran this city. what's that about?
ReplyDelete148 We could use some paved streets in Linda Mar. Send the guys over if Miss Nancy's not interested.
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