tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post8946123983461329610..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: We call "Shenanigans"Fix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-72888689228552721772014-10-27T14:41:28.781-07:002014-10-27T14:41:28.781-07:00141, I didn't want to alter their flyer only c...141, I didn't want to alter their flyer only comment on it.<br /><br />But there were a few things that would have been funny. Alternatives? Riding a horse? 14' Great Wall of China. Keener, Digre and what's his name. Larry, Moe & Curly pictures.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-38399337106843306522014-10-27T13:41:00.085-07:002014-10-27T13:41:00.085-07:00Hey, where's the ambulance stuck in traffic? I...Hey, where's the ambulance stuck in traffic? If you're going to mess with their picture, mess with it!!! Ambulance, fire truck, pizza guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-51990222224725169182014-10-27T12:50:57.119-07:002014-10-27T12:50:57.119-07:00Fred Howard ran for city council 4 times before he...Fred Howard ran for city council 4 times before he got on.<br /><br />And he was a Friend of the Hills or Save our Hills group.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-33872084746319151542014-10-27T07:15:59.108-07:002014-10-27T07:15:59.108-07:001025 No name. Ask me that after the 4th. We'll...1025 No name. Ask me that after the 4th. We'll see who is more out of touch with what voters want or care about.<br /><br />Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-68369669815868574092014-10-26T22:25:10.463-07:002014-10-26T22:25:10.463-07:00Hutch, 9:35 reminds me of a question I've alwa...Hutch, 9:35 reminds me of a question I've always wanted to ask you:<br /><br />What made you think that it would be a Great Idea to pay $1,000 to run two ads declaring that 99% of Pacificans were for widening? I mean, there's <i>spin</i> and then there's unadulterated bullshit. That ad was 99% the later and it really stunk up the joint.<br /><br />You've kind of gone AWOL when it comes to that ad. Want to own up to that embarrassment? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52665239182166902622014-10-26T21:35:47.357-07:002014-10-26T21:35:47.357-07:00The joke's on you, 7:19.
I read an advertise...The joke's on you, 7:19. <br /><br />I read an advertisement in the most distinguished of papers which declared that 99% of Pacifica's population is pro-widening.<br /><br />You aren't a naysayer, are you, 7:19? You are. You say "nay" a lot, don't you. Why, perhaps you are all horses, you are such sayers of "nay."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-26770993396074668602014-10-26T20:28:01.562-07:002014-10-26T20:28:01.562-07:00Yeah 719, you need to sit in traffic more, and whi...Yeah 719, you need to sit in traffic more, and while you're at it take drive down the coast. Coastside is in the early stages of fixing their traffic bottlenecks, and the solutions again seem to be highway widening (the result of heavy traffic).<br /><br />815, the "alternatives' were already studied complete with Final Environmental Impact Report. Its not about "trusting this council", its about science (the studies are done), time for the engineers to draft the project.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-63483662425875154692014-10-26T20:15:44.406-07:002014-10-26T20:15:44.406-07:00It isn't about sitting in traffic, or traffic ...It isn't about sitting in traffic, or traffic at all, and the community knows that. I believe they'd like to look at some of those other alternatives. Look at them honestly and with diligence. I don't believe they trust this council or believe it's the all or nothing deal hawked on here. And, even if it is, people don't like being steam-rolled into submission in their own town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-73823149386986011472014-10-26T20:12:24.814-07:002014-10-26T20:12:24.814-07:00We'll see about that on the 4th 7:19. Care to ...We'll see about that on the 4th 7:19. Care to put a name to your post?Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-2003272900195968262014-10-26T19:19:36.043-07:002014-10-26T19:19:36.043-07:00You guys that think that the majority of the commu...You guys that think that the majority of the community is for the widening need to get out more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-44257324729169069932014-10-26T18:36:11.618-07:002014-10-26T18:36:11.618-07:00"'But even if the widening was approved b..."'But even if the widening was approved by a 60%-40% vote...'<br /><br />LOL" 70%-30%?<br /><br />Against widening - 70% for it 30% Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-91681502722248907272014-10-26T17:41:17.763-07:002014-10-26T17:41:17.763-07:00Memo to candidates. Don't leave any phone mess...Memo to candidates. Don't leave any phone messages for people who criticize you and improve your chances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-60132881780793578212014-10-26T17:36:59.418-07:002014-10-26T17:36:59.418-07:00It's really hard for a first time candidate wh...It's really hard for a first time candidate who's an unknown to win. He doesn't have a business here, wasn't a city employee, no committees, etc. Lived a quiet life in Pacifica and there's nothing wrong with that, but it makes it difficult to win in a small town. I think he was initially motivated by a single important issue but he's not one-dimensional, and usually, neither are the voters. He's campaigned hard. Time will tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-43459333316672225222014-10-26T17:36:55.029-07:002014-10-26T17:36:55.029-07:00"'But even if the widening was approved b..."'But even if the widening was approved by a 60%-40% vote...'<br /><br />LOL"<br /><br />70%-30%? Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-30859773870742211662014-10-26T17:33:55.409-07:002014-10-26T17:33:55.409-07:005:10, the hate will kill you man. Calm down and pu...5:10, the hate will kill you man. Calm down and put down the doughnut. <br /><br />I don't think Caltrans is perfect. Far from it. Is this plan perfect? No friggin way. But if you want anything done we need to compromise.<br /><br />Something the NIMBY's are not willing to even think about.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-71060486277845200262014-10-26T17:10:20.259-07:002014-10-26T17:10:20.259-07:00When Keener wins, does anyone think Hutch will STF...When Keener wins, does anyone think Hutch will STFU? No, of course not. <br /><br />Hutchsky will come up with yet another unbelievable reason why Caltrans can do no wrong and despite Keener winning, well... 99% of Pacificans still really, really, REALLY want the highway widened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-71538607397420569542014-10-26T17:00:45.370-07:002014-10-26T17:00:45.370-07:00Hutch said...
"I think a referendum would jus...Hutch said...<br />"I think a referendum would just be another stall tactic. Besides the referendum will be next Tuesday and will be based on how large an amount Keener loses by."<br /><br />Disagree. The election is about who citizens think will make good city council members. While some have tried to make it be about a specific issue -- on both sides -- it's more than that. <br /><br />Stand against the highway, though I am not voting for Mr. Keener.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-77063705421996669642014-10-26T16:51:29.527-07:002014-10-26T16:51:29.527-07:0060/40 in favor of widening? Where? I can't fin...60/40 in favor of widening? Where? I can't find 3 people on my Linda Mar street of 20 houses who favor it. Cross section of age, length of residence, employed and retired. Clear majority opposed. Many feel council majority is in cahoots with local realtors and developers to "sell out Pacifica". The cost is a real sore point. Obviously if there was a referendum, there would be a vigorous campaign conducted by both sides and the vote could be closer but IMHO widening would not pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-38128327672432160632014-10-26T16:12:51.508-07:002014-10-26T16:12:51.508-07:00Only 8 days left. Only 8 days left. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67436580888321496572014-10-26T16:02:34.319-07:002014-10-26T16:02:34.319-07:00A referendum would be interesting. Pacifica voters...A referendum would be interesting. Pacifica voters only, but I could see all kinds of support from other coastal towns/groups who might think they're next in line for a little Caltrans' love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-41221218206780919482014-10-26T15:55:52.832-07:002014-10-26T15:55:52.832-07:00"But even if the widening was approved by a 6..."But even if the widening was approved by a 60%-40% vote..."<br /><br />LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52279487266412995132014-10-26T15:53:37.970-07:002014-10-26T15:53:37.970-07:00I think a referendum would just be another stall t...I think a referendum would just be another stall tactic. Besides the referendum will be next Tuesday and will be based on how large an amount Keener loses by. Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-53712235901060231122014-10-26T15:09:06.087-07:002014-10-26T15:09:06.087-07:00A referendum isn't about a mandate or a trend ...A referendum isn't about a mandate or a trend or a suggestion, it's about putting it to a vote. One side wins and one loses. Both sides gamble. And even if council asks for the money that doesn't rule out a public referendum. Not at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-50888851294697695042014-10-26T14:12:16.372-07:002014-10-26T14:12:16.372-07:00A referendum would be interesting. I wouldn't ...A referendum would be interesting. I wouldn't be opposed to having one if it could be held in the Spring and funding wasn't threatened by the delay.<br /><br />But even if the widening was approved by a 60%-40% vote, which is what I'd expect the final result to be, widening opponents would spin it by saying that 60% isn't enough of a mandate.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-80259408859059671672014-10-26T13:58:40.277-07:002014-10-26T13:58:40.277-07:001256, I put out the facts, and you call that "...1256, I put out the facts, and you call that "only Kathy's world". No the odd ones out are you NIMBIES. <br /><br />Following the judges decision on the pending lawsuit, city council will move the project forward, then the engineering design will be drafted. Eventually highway construction will begin. <br /><br />There is a corridor of time for funding this project, you know that and your strategy is nothing more than an attempt to run out the clock on funding, (the core "alternative", result the usual "nothing for Pacifica). This is another old NIMBY trick: Delay and obstruct to defeat needed city planning and development.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.com