tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post8513243235465981784..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Pacifica Five-O Personnel BreakdownFix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-87988055229809820662011-04-08T13:21:17.561-07:002011-04-08T13:21:17.561-07:00Was that info buried somewhere in the mailers and ...Was that info buried somewhere in the mailers and ads promoting the fire suppression tax? Is there anything the city is in control of other than passing the hat and passing the buck?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-18555735398178847582011-04-08T09:35:42.002-07:002011-04-08T09:35:42.002-07:00"Mayor Nihart said that the city does not hav..."Mayor Nihart said that the city does not have control over how North County Fire Authority sets up its budget or how much it pays its employees and so cannot pay less money toward those salaries".<br /><br />This is from the Patch story on the chances of the parcel tax passing. So now we learn that it's not our responsibility to set the firefighter's payscale, just our responsiblitly to pay them!Howard Jarvisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-38052928811790828322011-04-08T08:40:36.617-07:002011-04-08T08:40:36.617-07:00Ummmm... That last voice you heard was the aforeme...Ummmm... That last voice you heard was the aforementioned person who likes to pout and stomp his or her feet (but who really needs to invest in an "Economics for Dummies" book).Scottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-32395147015029675842011-04-06T17:59:12.949-07:002011-04-06T17:59:12.949-07:00Ummm...that last voice you heard was city hall.Ummm...that last voice you heard was city hall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-77757359213387168812011-04-06T14:45:01.307-07:002011-04-06T14:45:01.307-07:00"@Scotty - it doesn't matter what police ..."@Scotty - it doesn't matter what police or fire officer's have made in other cities"<br /><br />Ummm... It does if we plan to employee anyone. You can't just pout, stomp your feet, and tell people to take a 20% pay cut if they have an option to not take that pay cut the next city over.Scottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-48832776087697654522011-04-04T17:36:26.908-07:002011-04-04T17:36:26.908-07:00Fire the lawyers and we will have plenty of money ...Fire the lawyers and we will have plenty of money for all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-58973142871636337722011-04-04T00:42:26.911-07:002011-04-04T00:42:26.911-07:00Thank you! Who cares what other cities pay? We ca...Thank you! Who cares what other cities pay? We can't afford these salaries and not just police and fire. The days when we had to compete for city employees are gone forever. Never believed that nonsense anyway. It's put out by HR and city execs who have a vested interest in salaries going up and want their recruitments to go easier--if they don't outsource them to some consultant. And if the grass is greener elsewhere well god bless. Go for it. Nothing wrong with turnover. Bottom line we can't afford these salaries and pensions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-12503775458415279072011-04-03T23:51:16.247-07:002011-04-03T23:51:16.247-07:00@Scotty - it doesn't matter what police or fir...@Scotty - it doesn't matter what police or fire officer's have made in other cities - what matters is that WE cannot afford to pay them these grossly exaggerated salaries, with pensions that WILL bankrupt this city. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-1911103615256607252011-04-02T22:48:45.142-07:002011-04-02T22:48:45.142-07:00Well shoot, somebody's getiing a good deal but...Well shoot, somebody's getiing a good deal but I doubt it's Pacifica.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-3540210814592327212011-04-02T22:07:32.627-07:002011-04-02T22:07:32.627-07:00Pacifica's getting a good deal, then.Pacifica's getting a good deal, then.Anonymoosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52279292402630565432011-04-02T21:44:23.371-07:002011-04-02T21:44:23.371-07:00According to an earlier S.M. Co. Times article, th...According to an earlier S.M. Co. Times article, the totla yearly value of a Pacifica police officer's compensation was approximately $180,000. That's salary, benefits and pension combined. In contrast, a San Mateo County Sheriff's officer's position is worth $209,000.<br />Think that's sustainable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-25518648080150314972011-04-01T22:38:34.513-07:002011-04-01T22:38:34.513-07:00Oh don't worry. The fire tax will pass becaus...Oh don't worry. The fire tax will pass because voters feel they have no choice. We'll continue to lurch and limp from crisis to crisis. Just like so many other cities that haven't figured out this isn't a temporary situation. We're living in a new economic world where there are no buyers for homes but plenty of demand for apartments and every new business means the pie is sliced again. Will this city figure it out? Definitely not but we'll argue it to death and pay richly for the privilege. Make that insolvency and bankruptcy. Oblivious to the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52193407899906352932011-04-01T22:04:28.092-07:002011-04-01T22:04:28.092-07:00According to an article in today's San Mateo C...According to an article in today's San Mateo County Times, Redwood City's average base salary for a cop is $111,876, excluding overtime, benefits and other compensation. Menlo Park's average base salary for a cop is $109,000, excluding overtime, benefits and other compensation.<br /><br />Those represent the two highest base salaries for police in the county.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-60428290147107719542011-04-01T15:49:20.164-07:002011-04-01T15:49:20.164-07:00I remember the old days when someone would go to w...I remember the old days when someone would go to work for a city or county because it was job security. They would sacrifice the fat paydays for the knowledge that they would have a job in 20 years. Ha! They still have that job after 20 years but now they have the 100k+ paydays and the fat pensions. Why? Because they own the politicians, that's why.Wally the Working Stiffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-15057132455541584392011-04-01T11:46:31.082-07:002011-04-01T11:46:31.082-07:00"A more interesting analysis would be how our..."A more interesting analysis would be how our civil servants are paid relative to other like positions in like cities."<br /><br />This year some city employee pensions were brought-up to the county average according to city council agenda documents. How many, what kind, any changes following union negotiations-- I don't know.<br /><br />Then there are the structural issues. Governor Brown intends to address some pension reform. This is in the news today, and here's a link to one text report from <a href="http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/04/01/state-pension-problems-deepen-governor-proposes-re/" rel="nofollow">KPCC southern CA public radio.</a><br /><br />This ordinary citizen doesn't understand why State, County, City employees do not have social security as the basis of their pension system system, similar to private industry. Last night on TV news I heard a public employee complaining that his pension would be cut to only 60% of income. Social security, on the other hand, covers 40% of income. Social security also needs reform to cover more benefit than it does.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-21235347665207247862011-04-01T09:59:55.127-07:002011-04-01T09:59:55.127-07:00We don't get to decide how much people are pai...We don't get to decide how much people are paid -- typically, the market does. A more interesting analysis would be how our civil servants are paid relative to other like positions in like cities.Scottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-2318463374309601172011-04-01T07:51:20.414-07:002011-04-01T07:51:20.414-07:00The state controllers website has a link but the 2...The state controllers website has a link but the 2009 numbers are not low. The average for captains was $150,00, Sargents avg. was $140,000 and corporals avg. was $130,000. The compensation report (same one that has Firefighters) lists the Police Chiefs salary $171,688. <br /><br />For a city the size of Pacifica we sure have a lot of employees between fire, police and senior staff that are earning more than $120,000 a year. I count 80 that made more than $100,000 a year in 2009 and 35 that made more than $120,000 a year in 2009.<br /><br />God bless them all but ARE YOU F#$%ING KIDDING ME? We are a small little coastal town of 39,000 folks floating $100,000 salaries for 80 people, and 35 of them make more than $120,000? No flipping wonder we are broke. <br /><br />The only way we are going to survive is massive wage cuts, with a higher percentage coming from the top earners. Given the enormity of these salaries how f#$%ing DARE senior staff push a fire assessment tax on us!todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-3142597200855669322011-04-01T07:16:55.404-07:002011-04-01T07:16:55.404-07:00We may be bare-bones staffed but I bet we're n...We may be bare-bones staffed but I bet we're not bare-bones payroll. I wonder what the pay scales are for all that brass.Recession Robbynoreply@blogger.com