tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post652585004985859432..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Alternative plan proposed for the quarryFix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-68892433115446096042013-07-06T08:28:41.853-07:002013-07-06T08:28:41.853-07:00Hutch
You know it would take a consultants report...Hutch<br /><br />You know it would take a consultants report and $30,000 to Post on Stripers On Line, and the other fishing blogs.<br /><br />The Gang of No will all come to city council saying all the fisherman are the cause of the highway 1 traffic problems and the back up during the commutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-7837608911380335692013-07-06T08:26:43.415-07:002013-07-06T08:26:43.415-07:0010:48 the reason why Pacifica is bankrupt and the ...10:48 the reason why Pacifica is bankrupt and the "gang of no" has run the town into the ground over the last 30 years.<br /><br />Let someone else do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-20961866333200818792013-07-06T05:57:34.340-07:002013-07-06T05:57:34.340-07:00Wait until the city files bankrupt. All the people...Wait until the city files bankrupt. All the people who purchased a home in the last 10 years will start a massive class action lawsuit against every realtor who didn't disclose the sorry state of Pacifica's finances and they will also sue the city.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-39300557041148527762013-07-06T04:49:43.475-07:002013-07-06T04:49:43.475-07:00Pacifica did have the lowest prices on the Peninsu...Pacifica did have the lowest prices on the Peninsula. Some parts od Daly City and lower Menlo Park and East Palo had some shady areas.<br /><br />Pacifica prices started to catch up in 2002 when people in the city and down the Peninsula, figured hey we can buy in Pacifica for 1/3 the price of down 101 or 280.<br /><br />Linda Mar hit the mid $700K and Park Pacifica was starting to hit $1,000,000. Pedro Point and a couple area had sales over $1,000,000.<br /><br />The great recession took prices down almost 50%.<br /><br />Pacifica looks like an excellent choice to live on paper. 20 minutes from downtown SF. Right next to Daly City Bart. Over the hill from one of the biggest bio-tech centers in the world SSF.<br /><br />People buy in town and do not have a clue how bad the city finances are. I talk to new families who move in and I ask them, well didn't you and your realtor talk about that? <br /><br />In order to Pacifica to get out of this perfect financial storm they are in everyone down at city hall has to change. The old guards have to change and new blood has to come in. So far nothing I have seen from the new council tells me they want to improve things. <br /><br />big bankernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-79664586970541555192013-07-06T04:43:19.512-07:002013-07-06T04:43:19.512-07:00Our fishing was legendary up to about 1990-2002. T...Our fishing was legendary up to about 1990-2002. The Southern California water grabbers wanted more and more water. <br /><br />But your message is spot on Hutch. The only beach town on the west coast that does not take advantage of being a beach town.<br /><br />Look at the Jersey shore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-7717400311998460482013-07-05T22:48:39.446-07:002013-07-05T22:48:39.446-07:00Knock yourself out, Hutch.Knock yourself out, Hutch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-19457655940745252482013-07-05T22:15:40.257-07:002013-07-05T22:15:40.257-07:00The one thing we do not promote as much as we shou...The one thing we do not promote as much as we should is the world class fishing right here in Pacifica. We are one of the only places in the world where you can catch King Salmon and Dungeness Crabs off a pier. And with no fishing license needed.<br /><br />Our Striped Bass fishing is legendary. Also Perch can be caught in the surf and Rockfish in (yes) the rocks. <br /><br />Sport fishermen travel from across the country and world to fish hotspots like Cabo, Alaska Australia. They spend big bucks on hotels, dining out even hiring fishing guides. <br /><br />Pacifica could easily attract these tourists with money to spend with very little effort.<br /><br />I notice on the city website there is little or no mention of the world class fishing here in Pacifica<br /><br />http://www.cityofpacifica.org/about/default.asp<br /><br />We should at least let people know on our home page and promote this resource more than "trails" which bring us very little money. I think it's an industry we could easily develop into something that could attract 1000's more visitors a year.<br /><br />The Tribune used to have a fishing report. I don't know why they stopped. And it wouldn't cost too much to put some little ads in the back of some fishing publications.<br />Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-36388759890276707592013-07-05T21:23:03.764-07:002013-07-05T21:23:03.764-07:00Turn it into a big park? No. We're already a b...Turn it into a big park? No. We're already a big park. How about build some nice places to live for renters and buyers, apts, condos, houses. Not block after block but some nice, new, housing stock. Might bring us a few more people to shop in our stores, help old businesses and attract some new ones. No reason we can't have a premium outlet mall, too. No reason at all. Anything to put us on the map.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-84656792531340258392013-07-05T20:54:28.870-07:002013-07-05T20:54:28.870-07:00Pacifica has some of the lowest home prices on the...Pacifica has some of the lowest home prices on the Peninsula. That doesn't jibe with the statement that people view Pacifica as a desirable place to live. When I tell people I live in Pacifica, they either give me a blank stare; or give me a look of pity, as if I told them I lived in Pyongyang or Port-au-Prince.<br /><br />People aren't interested in living in "NoWhereville", where you have to drive five miles to buy anything other than groceries.<br /><br />For 30+ years, the Gang of No has been telling us that tourists will flock here if we turn the city into a big park. Since that hasn't happened, the new story is homeowners will flock here if we turn the city into a big park.<br /><br />Kinda like telling us we can't build in the quarry because traffic on highway 1 is too heavy, and then saying we don't need to increase highway capacity because there really isn't a problem.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-82842610614166089882013-07-05T20:32:01.967-07:002013-07-05T20:32:01.967-07:00546 In truth, there's not much to take advanta... 546 In truth, there's not much to take advantage of as far as tourists are concerned. We're really nothing special and we're right next door to SF which is seriously special. Tourist route is SF then the Monterey Peninsula, Wine Country or Marin. Might gas up in Pacifica or we might even get some city hotel overflow and a meal, but that's about it. We're minor league. Our value and our economy should be based on our proximity to jobs. That's the thing we have that people want. Small, quiet town with massive amounts of open space and an easy commute to job centers. That's a valuable commodity and we should be selling it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-24615683967005977882013-07-05T17:46:56.461-07:002013-07-05T17:46:56.461-07:00Anonymous 6:37pm said" Pacifica, is the only...Anonymous 6:37pm said" Pacifica, is the only beach town on the West Coast that does not take advantage of being a beach town. Carmel, has the same group of no and hippies and nobees and nimbys but they understand the city needs revenue."<br /><br />Correct, Carmel appreciates the scenic beauty of the location and that uniqueness draws people, not outlet shopping malls or same old same old cheap retail that is found elsewhere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-58828362918605311662013-07-04T18:37:43.270-07:002013-07-04T18:37:43.270-07:00Pacifica, is the only beach town on the West Coast...Pacifica, is the only beach town on the West Coast that does not take advantage of being a beach town.<br /><br />Carmel, has the same group of no and hippies and nobees and nimbys but they understand the city needs revenue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-33211959112986966372013-07-04T18:32:31.175-07:002013-07-04T18:32:31.175-07:00We're just a 'burb. What used to be called...We're just a 'burb. What used to be called a bedroom community. The sooner we realize that and stop trying to become a freaking nature park, the sooner we start climbing out of this really deep hole. More housing of all sorts and more businesses will bring us more money and make us a place people other than the aging hippie-brigade want to live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-22123938858941546662013-07-04T18:18:22.930-07:002013-07-04T18:18:22.930-07:00bring back Peebles!bring back Peebles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-63139652844194743882013-07-04T17:57:04.042-07:002013-07-04T17:57:04.042-07:00Yes, comments about similar weather in Carmel, Mon...Yes, comments about similar weather in Carmel, Monterey, Fort Bragg, and Mendicino are correct. However, each of those locales are destination towns; Fort Bragg, maybe not so much. Can we really say that about Pacifica that it's a destination? Perhaps the fact that our proximity to San Francisco limits our ability to ever become a destination. The other locales really have no large cities nearby unless you would consider San Jose as nearby; it's a bit of a drive from San Jose to Monterey or Carmel. Perfectly doable, but a drive nevertheless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-23410375491473224212013-07-04T16:51:46.429-07:002013-07-04T16:51:46.429-07:00Steve
Sorry. $225,000 was my low $$ year in the ...Steve<br /><br />Sorry. $225,000 was my low $$ year in the big recession.<br /><br />Life is good for Big Banker!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-2356709114928266902013-07-04T16:34:40.921-07:002013-07-04T16:34:40.921-07:00Anonymous said...
In my opinion, it's Pacifica...Anonymous said...<br />In my opinion, it's Pacifica's weather that does not allow it to compete with Monterey or Santa Cruz in terms of drawing people to town. Sure, we get the nice days( certainly this summer!), but never as nice as Santa Cruz or Monterey. Even nearby Half Moon Bay usually has better weather. Oh, and they have a legitimate downtown. I've been in and around Pacifica for near 50 years and still can't figure out where our downtown is.<br /><br />July 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM<br /> <br />Carmel is just as foggy as Pacifica, and tourists flock there. The difference between Carmel by Monterey Bay can be 60 and fog vs 80 back in Carmel Valley. The same micro climate in Pacifica. It was 85 degrees in the back of the valley today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-42977619710749836782013-07-03T11:34:17.580-07:002013-07-03T11:34:17.580-07:00Yeah,yeah, but their tax dollars are real purty.Yeah,yeah, but their tax dollars are real purty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-47515625990459419332013-07-03T07:30:22.463-07:002013-07-03T07:30:22.463-07:00The locals have to stop shopping in their bedroom ...The locals have to stop shopping in their bedroom slippers , comb their hair and maybe replace a few missing teeth before an upscale shopping center could take hold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-17294848277500299732013-07-03T00:54:19.709-07:002013-07-03T00:54:19.709-07:00The leader in these upscale outlet malls is a comp...The leader in these upscale outlet malls is a company called Premium Outlets. They're all over the US and in several other countries. Great stores, Polo, Coach, Barneys, etc. Restaurants. Serious outreach programs to conventions, travel agents, hotels, chambers, etc. as well as drawing regional customers.<br />What a difference something like that would make for this city. Of course we'd have to get on the radar first before anything will ever happen. Pretty clear, that won't happen without an economic development pro on staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-14595617700489092382013-07-03T00:30:35.831-07:002013-07-03T00:30:35.831-07:00412 Upscale outlet malls are different animals. No...412 Upscale outlet malls are different animals. Not at all like traditional malls. They draw an outlet customer and those customers tend to make an event out of a visit. Shop, lunch, shop, etc. or, they arrive on a tour bus. Your analyst's comments do not include the premium outlet malls several of us are advocating here. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-2134492320958881052013-07-03T00:07:41.896-07:002013-07-03T00:07:41.896-07:00Anonymous 9:52 PM.
Your words, "wtf does &qu...Anonymous 9:52 PM.<br /><br />Your words, "wtf does "vendors could also provide online mall shopping" mean?" Try premium outlet mall clothing vendors (or merchants). That was the subject. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_%28supply_chain%29" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia.</a> No reason the stores would not also offer their products/clothing as part of the premium outlet mall online. <br /><br />Your words, "what's your strategy?" Guess you missed my 5:05 PM comment, figures. Or is there some obscure strategy you're tuned in to? <br /><br />Your words, "repeated ad nauseum". So once again, the needed city focus to develop the quarry has been expressed by Pacificans who can count, and who understand civic economic and social synergy. Prior city councils (more recently from 2002) and their friends (you) have failed this city by sidelining and obstructing development opportunities. <br /><br />The result over 32+ years is that a whole lot of permanent damage has been done to this city. So its time to stop coddling NIMBIES who refuse balance, and try to fix what's left.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-88804971591011989742013-07-02T21:52:43.444-07:002013-07-02T21:52:43.444-07:00Kathy, we understand you hate the prior councils a...Kathy, we understand you hate the prior councils as you've repeated ad nauseum, but what's your strategy? Hope an outlet mall drops down from the heavens?<br /><br />And wtf does "vendors could also provide online mall shopping" mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-59598193124768270122013-07-02T20:29:25.012-07:002013-07-02T20:29:25.012-07:00That's a good point about the weather. But tow...That's a good point about the weather. But towns like Mendocino & Ft Bragg have foggy weather and do alright.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-51207125302644872782013-07-02T20:22:54.880-07:002013-07-02T20:22:54.880-07:00"Hope is not a strategy." Anonymous 7:53..."Hope is not a strategy." Anonymous 7:53 PM.<br /><br />You may have noticed the current "we'll have nothing" strategy of removing land from Pacifica, the avoidance of smart development, the ton of forced fees, combined with the refusal to pay additional taxes and fees where possible is not working-out that well.<br /><br />"Shop 'til you drop" sounds like a good strategy for Pacifica. Bring in the tourists (including the busloads), and vendors could also provide online mall shopping.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.com