tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post6492287235209186858..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Lampoon karma, ".. couldn't happen to a nicer guy" Fix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-14147299812610910932016-09-03T07:52:00.787-07:002016-09-03T07:52:00.787-07:00811 Spoken like a true ass which is what happens w...811 Spoken like a true ass which is what happens when you make assumptions. Before you pop a vein let's temper rhetoric and conspiracy theories with the high probability that none of us on here will be alive to see your doomsday events should they ever come to pass. Still seething? Quit speculating on appreciation and sell your sand dune now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-5810390286200329372016-09-02T08:11:27.945-07:002016-09-02T08:11:27.945-07:003:21 Spoken like a true Trumpster, profiting off ...3:21 Spoken like a true Trumpster, profiting off the misfortune of others.You know that the longer this screwy agenda languishes in the press the more West Harp Park and Fairway properties go down in value, Once the property has inundated you'll be able to give this wetland to the GGNRA for pennies on the dollar. Highway One will become another nature trail and you can forbid dogs and automobiles.<br />Perfect, as long as you have yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-572259495061898712016-09-01T15:26:52.787-07:002016-09-01T15:26:52.787-07:00@ 9:13, you are so right. If the sea wall is allow...@ 9:13, you are so right. If the sea wall is allowed to "manage retreat", not only is West Sharp park doomed but so are the froggies and snakes Plater has tried so hard to protect. Not to mention how much he has fleeced SF for in stupid legal fees!! Frogs & Snakes cannot live in Salt water!!! They will all be dead!! I for one am tired of these people and really think it is time for their managed retreat somewhere else!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-178373681061694212016-09-01T15:21:43.630-07:002016-09-01T15:21:43.630-07:00913 Yes, Hillary, it's a vast right wing consp...913 Yes, Hillary, it's a vast right wing conspiracy, uh, I mean eco-cult plot. They're out to screw ya! The signs are all there--you listed them. Don't dally. Save what you can. Sell now! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-27018921816949942882016-09-01T09:13:33.629-07:002016-09-01T09:13:33.629-07:003:15 You sound so learned and wise but actually yo...3:15 You sound so learned and wise but actually you are so full of bullshit. All generations are bound by earlier choices.<br />Managed Retreat, Sea Level Rise, Save the Frogs, Hate the Golf Course, send me a check for my failed litigation are all ingredients in this toxic soup of Eco-Cultism that has taken hold in Pacifica. Maybe we should all go back to applying leaches to the skin to rid us of the vapors.<br />Look at Wild Equity's inundation maps as prepared by Bob Battallio. Watch how he cleverly presents his doomsday scenario which is; don't maintain the berms at the golf course, don't repair or replace the seawall on Beach Blvd and let mother nature swallow up West Sharp Park all the way to the highway. These are his words and his calculations. All of this mayhem and destruction is completely preventable if the berms are maintained and the wall repaired and maintained. This is Moffat and Nickel's research (Batallio's former employer). Who you gonna believe? A guy who makes money by creating these doomsday scenarios or a world class engineering firm who carefully advises and designs coastal strategies for cities all over the world? <br />It's so so easy for these NOBY's to be be completely cavalier with other people's property and resources just so long as they've got theirs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-88748443785019649652016-09-01T03:15:17.699-07:002016-09-01T03:15:17.699-07:00It's a bitter pill, but there are very real li...It's a bitter pill, but there are very real limits to what can be done and controversy among even the most astute real experts about what should be done. Recognition of those limits didn't happen over night, recognition came after generations of experience and observation here and in other countries dealing with the same problem. How much should be spent to slow the inevitable? What are the consequences of action, intended and unintended consequences? There is no one-time fix. Future generations cannot be bound by earlier choices. How many times do we apply the Band-Aid? It's an expensive can to be kicking down the road--either way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-37959503062164573712016-08-31T15:29:29.021-07:002016-08-31T15:29:29.021-07:00These are not circumstances beyond our control, th...These are not circumstances beyond our control, there is plenty that can and should be done to protect our coastline and those living adjacent to it. Including the freekin' frogs who don't like the salt water..Sharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-40000202728010681602016-08-31T15:14:54.188-07:002016-08-31T15:14:54.188-07:00In fact there were homes and businesses involved i...In fact there were homes and businesses involved in the Pacifica State Beach Managed Retreat project. And it is not a whole different story in west Sharp Park and Rockaway. The concept of managed retreat does not mean abandoning an entire neighborhood. But refusal to understand that may well lead to pointless lawsuits that will ultimately lose. Go ahead and bury your head in the sand – the sand that won't be there when you want and need it to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-39252043900339668672016-08-31T13:54:06.885-07:002016-08-31T13:54:06.885-07:00There's nothing new about the managed retreat ...There's nothing new about the managed retreat strategy and coastlines. There's also nothing new about how poorly it's understood or how emotional the response is. Unlikely anyone directly impacted will ever become a fan of managed coastal retreat. Guess we're going to find out how those people in steel mills and auto plants felt when their lives changed forever due to circumstances beyond their control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-31646360581142848852016-08-31T13:13:08.591-07:002016-08-31T13:13:08.591-07:00@9:09 am 8/31, you've posted that link before ...@9:09 am 8/31, you've posted that link before and as "rantanon" Mike Bell pointed out no homes/businesses involved in that project. It's a whole different story in West Sharp Park and Rockaway and you know it. Just wonder what the economics are of a class action law suit by the thousands of businesses and residents of those west of the highway would be vs. just getting busy and building a working seawall and maintaining the berm. Further there are a bunch of rusting ship hulls in Suisun bay that could be sunk just off shore and would work beautifully as reefs. Why the hell doesn't somebody get busy with that, they have been sitting there for many years. Millions of dollars, coming from our taxes being spent on the Bayside to protect the big tech companies but not a damn dime on the coast.Sharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-44054171809963000122016-08-31T09:09:57.276-07:002016-08-31T09:09:57.276-07:00Managed retreat in Pacifica: "ESA's award...Managed retreat in Pacifica: "ESA's award-winning managed retreat project reduced flooding hazards by realigning oceanfront property and infrastructure away from coastal erosion hotspots, and restored estuarine functioning on San Pedro Creek. This project was identified as a Top Restored Beach by the American Shore and Beach Preservation Association in 2005 and is featured on the NOAA website in the Shoreline Management: Managed Retreat area." http://esassoc.com/projects/pacifica-state-beach-managed-retreat-beach-and-estuary-restorationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-82650019785064648122016-08-31T04:36:51.216-07:002016-08-31T04:36:51.216-07:00Homework assignment: What is managed retreat? Why ...Homework assignment: What is managed retreat? Why are countries around the world selectively adopting the managed retreat strategy for all/part of their coastal areas? Try and be objective. Maybe pretend you live in Nebraska and don't own property/pay taxes in coastal San Mateo County. Give it a try!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-71511385764730480122016-08-30T18:45:59.445-07:002016-08-30T18:45:59.445-07:00The golf course killers and tax payer parasites ar...The golf course killers and tax payer parasites are funding Deirdre Martin's campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-4398561491542249742016-08-30T18:07:59.455-07:002016-08-30T18:07:59.455-07:00So 3:44, how do you reconcile Keener's remark ...So 3:44, how do you reconcile Keener's remark made at a council meeting that he won't vote to spend a dime west of highway one? No mention of protecting anything. Keener, and his hand picked candidate, martin, are lock step with the group that is doing an end run to take the golf course, people be damned.Call BS BSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-44582457687316024282016-08-30T17:59:39.215-07:002016-08-30T17:59:39.215-07:003:44 You are either a fool or you are trying to fo...3:44 You are either a fool or you are trying to fool everyone else. Keener and his support group (including Deirdre Martin) are pushing "managed retreat". They have defined it as NOT building a proper sea wall on Beach Blvd and not maintaining the earthen berms west of the golf course. According to their own calculations and that of Moffat and Nickel, this will eventually result in the inundation of all of West Sharp Park and West Fairway up to Highway One. Beware Rockaway and Linda Mar, you're next! <br />Don't be a putz, read their literature. Read their findings and read their Failure Analysis recommendations. It all leads to the same place. West sharp Park is doomed to be underwater. You sound like Trump trying to walk back his bullshit deportation strategy cuz he knows that the Normal Majority isn't buying it. "Managed Retreat" in this application is nothing but deliberate destruction by enviro-cultists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-57395167752071832362016-08-30T15:44:53.534-07:002016-08-30T15:44:53.534-07:00People who think that managed retreat means wiping...People who think that managed retreat means wiping out West Sharp Park are Chicken Littles crying that the sky is falling. Managed retreat doesn't mean abandoning the neighborhood and opening the flood gates to let it be destroyed. The key word is managed. It means taking into account that there are homes, businesses, important infrastructure and facilities and resources that need to be protected as much as possible, within the limits of our abilities to do so in the face of sea level rise, winter storms, high tides, and seasonal flooding. The foaming-at-the-mouth nut jobs who are running around screaming about managed retreat taking out the whole neighborhood are extremists who are trying to stir up opposition to the concept of managed retreat without understanding what it means. Take a breath and get rational. Nobody supports letting an entire neighborhood disappear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-28450492307331940932016-08-30T15:22:40.184-07:002016-08-30T15:22:40.184-07:00Anyone who uses Mama Nature as reason to not impro...Anyone who uses Mama Nature as reason to not improve Pacifica is a fraud. The same arguments about sea level rise can be made about earthquakes (i.e., San Andreas Fault proximity) and so on. <br /><br />My concern is more with the current City Council where supposedly, the "NOBIES/NIMBYS" are a minority. So why isn't more getting done NOW, while we have the majority? This will go down in history as the period of lost opportunity or opportunity squandered. What a pity...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-29683908762235492462016-08-30T13:57:00.683-07:002016-08-30T13:57:00.683-07:00I don't know about managed retreat being a fra...I don't know about managed retreat being a fraud, but it's going to put a crimp in all those plans for a new downtown, library, and the rest of the pipe dream. Seems like managed retreat is driven by economics and we know where Pacifica places in that contest. Grants and loans? Who's going to take that bet? State and Fed may not want to play in that game. They'd never be able to cash out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-78872408394650958762016-08-30T13:21:09.578-07:002016-08-30T13:21:09.578-07:00100, but we do know twisted NIMBY campaigning, and...100, but we do know twisted NIMBY campaigning, and the deeds that have kept Pacifica limited and poor. <br />And currently, do you really think wiping-out West Sharp Park through "managed retreat" policies is anything but a really wrong-headed fraud against the City and the people who live here-- especially the people who live in West Sharp Park?Kathy Meeh (NIMBY policies have degraded this City)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-44243681857755505632016-08-30T13:00:40.344-07:002016-08-30T13:00:40.344-07:00846 Really? Her alignment with the NOBY's make...846 Really? Her alignment with the NOBY's makes her a fraud? You think anyone is buying that line other than those like yourself who have already bought it? Kinda like Trump. He can't grow his base and neither can you. And for the same reason...your rhetoric has limited appeal. You don't know Pacifica.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-64672434756428609672016-08-30T08:46:59.604-07:002016-08-30T08:46:59.604-07:0012:32 .....not if she is exposed as the fraud that...12:32 .....not if she is exposed as the fraud that she is. She is the candidate of the NOBY's who want nothing for Pacifica, no construction of affordable housing, no investment or maintenance in and the resulting destruction of West Sharp Park with "managed retreat", and shifting the council majority back to nothing for Pacifica by voting with Keener and Digre.<br />Don't be fooled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-79287316039090329942016-08-30T01:32:07.862-07:002016-08-30T01:32:07.862-07:00Of course Deirdre Martin wins. Mike Bell just guar...Of course Deirdre Martin wins. Mike Bell just guaranteed it. In polarized Pacifica, who's against you is often the force multiplier for who's for you. Some well-known endorsements are pure poison to the majority of voters who simply watch the never-ending growth vs no growth battle from the sidelines and then weigh in on election day. Then it's back to the comfy, familiar sidelines. That's Pacifica.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-58491570649147497132016-08-29T13:59:00.278-07:002016-08-29T13:59:00.278-07:0012:32
Deidre Martin is in with Peter Loeb and his...12:32<br /><br />Deidre Martin is in with Peter Loeb and his gang of no. <br /><br />Smart money and Vegas odd's says she wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-71991427695495524752016-08-29T12:53:19.810-07:002016-08-29T12:53:19.810-07:00Oh please 1044, no questions. It's not like we...Oh please 1044, no questions. It's not like we really want answers. Complain and blame is what we live for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-42732299967729966642016-08-29T12:32:55.189-07:002016-08-29T12:32:55.189-07:00MOST IMPORTANT, prevent Deidre Martin from joining...MOST IMPORTANT, prevent Deidre Martin from joining the goons (Keener & Digre) for a majority NOBY vote. <br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05140076050610782618noreply@blogger.com