tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post5908028819769895846..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Eric Ruchames endorsementsFix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger125125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-28232182846582689462014-09-17T16:33:00.867-07:002014-09-17T16:33:00.867-07:00I used to hate Anonymous posts but I have come to ...I used to hate Anonymous posts but I have come to appreciate the freedom it gives to some folks to really speak their minds without fear of retribution. Most of the anonymous posts authors are not that difficult to figure out anyway. Yea some people abuse it and others are just plain nuts but I prefer freedom of speech, controversy and variety of opinions any time over the uber-editing on RIPTIDE.<br />Democracy's messy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67248478007788362592014-09-17T14:49:19.364-07:002014-09-17T14:49:19.364-07:00Jeez Kathy eat a snickers. 1229 is not the 1026. Y...Jeez Kathy eat a snickers. 1229 is not the 1026. You've been real grumpy since the Colt vote. Not criticizing the original mission but IMHO Fix is more than it was perhaps intended to be, not less. Despite whatever misgivings you both may have about anon postings, you and Steve gave people latitude and I think it's made for a more interesting blog. Take a bow. And yeah, I agree, it's Larks and dirt naps for all of us before Pacifica is Fixed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-28856952696467308902014-09-17T14:05:27.745-07:002014-09-17T14:05:27.745-07:001229, "... it depends on how far your blog st...1229, "... it depends on how far your blog strays from your original purpose. I think Fix Pacifica has strayed." Really?<br /><br />The original purpose was "Fix Pacifica"; it is still "Fix Pacifica". And, if there's a future, it will likely remain Fix Pacifica". It likely will remain "Fix Pacifica until "Pacifica is Fixed", (estimated timetable: not in our lifetime to never). <br /><br />Ah 1229, you may be Anonymous 9/16 @ 10:26 pm who was spammed. The same cowardly Anonymous who insists that hiding gives you a license to abuse "free speech". Well, to some extent that is allowed, and your message got out there, but get a clue-- spam is waiting for you.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-31773076633598128692014-09-17T13:37:12.934-07:002014-09-17T13:37:12.934-07:00I say don't mess with what's working. The ...I say don't mess with what's working. The reason not many people post on Riptide is that it's harder (not impossible) to be anonymous. Keep filtering out personal attacks and nonsense, but keep anons anon.Cosmo Kramernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-46031676066722649322014-09-17T12:31:19.004-07:002014-09-17T12:31:19.004-07:00Everyone loves a bitch session. Everyone loves a bitch session. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-61144937433704205182014-09-17T12:29:43.948-07:002014-09-17T12:29:43.948-07:00You put something out there, like a blog, and you ...You put something out there, like a blog, and you get to watch how the users take it in directions you may or may not approve. Try to control them and what do you have? Something much more one-note. I guess how bothered you are by it depends on how far your blog strays from your original purpose. I think Fix Pacifica has strayed. <br />The standards and rules from print journalism really don't fit the blogo-sphere. Maybe they should, but that moment is gone.<br />Boils down to loss vs. benefit. Free exchange of a wide range of comments about things of concern to the public vs. knowing who said it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-9323180533561964952014-09-17T12:02:40.740-07:002014-09-17T12:02:40.740-07:00I would say that your judgement is overall good ,e...I would say that your judgement is overall good ,except I have seen profanity on blog.I like the spirited comments on blog and do not need names.I like being anonymous;public when I want to have more impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-17685446493277201842014-09-17T11:13:37.114-07:002014-09-17T11:13:37.114-07:001010, corporations are not Anonymous. And comparin...1010, corporations are not Anonymous. And comparing Corporations to Anonymous blog comments is a bit of a reality-breach stretch. Comment civility is an expected norm most anywhere, in public and private events and functions, and on this blog. See blog comment policy upper left. <br /><br />"You have to be able to handle it"? We do. And that's why "god" invented spam. Thanks Steve!Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-9137445950877375772014-09-17T11:12:23.075-07:002014-09-17T11:12:23.075-07:00I love the don't shoot the messenger if you do...I love the don't shoot the messenger if you don't love the message. I got that all the time.<br />I still stand by the ethic that you put your name on things. Blogging might not be the New York Times but it's fast becoming the media we all have to deal with. It's fast overcoming actual print media. So I say: play by the journalism accountability rule and put your name to opinions. And Cronkite would agree with me as would Dan Rather, and the Watergate crew: "All the President's Men" reference.Elaine Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17607724339451880292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-50161683543759415812014-09-17T10:53:17.541-07:002014-09-17T10:53:17.541-07:00Being anonymous was used by Thomas Jefferson in na...Being anonymous was used by Thomas Jefferson in nasty attacks on Pres John Adams and anonymous attacks on Jefferson's Sally Hemmings relationship were not civil,also.King George thought your name on Declaration of Independence was treason and a death sentence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-53861745550407451692014-09-17T10:10:04.033-07:002014-09-17T10:10:04.033-07:00U S Suprime court said corporations are people.Is ...U S Suprime court said corporations are people.Is not that anonymous free speech hidden in not very civil political pacs?Free speech can be nasty; you have be able to handle it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-22663220353482941812014-09-17T00:37:01.212-07:002014-09-17T00:37:01.212-07:00657, on Riptide, sure rather than Anonymous you co...657, on Riptide, sure rather than Anonymous you could name yourself "flying monkeys". Actually you could do that here too.<br /><br />But, Elaine 327 makes the point that if you have something to say put your name to it. Its an old-fashion ethical, honorable, transparent, and stature concept. Tom 455 adds, "if you want to be taken seriously." <br /><br />1026, you think "free speech" allows you the right to NOT be civil under anonymous cover? Really bad idea. NOT being civil is "abuse of free speech", so I spammed your comment, 1026, ha! (Steve may reinstate your lame comment if he likes). <br /><br />On this thread, those who voluntarily posted comments under their names include: Jim, Todd, Kathy, Hutch, Tom, Elaine, Steve, Chris. That's eight individuals, pretty good. Maybe time to try that "experiment" again Steve, 517? <br /><br />As Hutch 803 said, the "well thought out" anonymous comments are fine (and we're used to them). Those abusive, twisted and incomplete comments that breach civility, (suggested by 1026 as "free speech"), usually belong in the dumpster.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-68456698803592470312014-09-16T22:26:03.543-07:002014-09-16T22:26:03.543-07:00It's nice to be anonymous Elaine because you d...It's nice to be anonymous Elaine because you do not have to be civil .Freedom of Speech applies to anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-45300116602158057032014-09-16T20:03:04.448-07:002014-09-16T20:03:04.448-07:00Elaine also I hope you keep posting here. We could...Elaine also I hope you keep posting here. We could use some more wisdom. Don't let the anon posts get to you. Many that I see are actually well thought out. It's what makes this blog so popular and I think it's good to hear how people really feel unfiltered. Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-23238979865719713302014-09-16T18:57:26.563-07:002014-09-16T18:57:26.563-07:00If you don't like lots of posts here from peop...If you don't like lots of posts here from people named "Anonymous," go over to Riptide where you won't find any.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-91060374342993168992014-09-16T18:24:27.918-07:002014-09-16T18:24:27.918-07:00Elaine, I love having you post here. I refer to th...Elaine, I love having you post here. I refer to them as anonymi!Chris Porternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-69460537407004704422014-09-16T17:17:15.316-07:002014-09-16T17:17:15.316-07:00I agree with Elaine and Tom, but when we tried an ...I agree with Elaine and Tom, but when we tried an experiment where people had to register to post a comment, nobody posted comments.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-574765584422788482014-09-16T16:56:58.156-07:002014-09-16T16:56:58.156-07:00Elaine
You can't shoot the messenger because ...Elaine<br /><br />You can't shoot the messenger because you don't like the message.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52092722420119548192014-09-16T16:55:07.043-07:002014-09-16T16:55:07.043-07:00I am with Elaine, if you want to be taken seriousl...I am with Elaine, if you want to be taken seriously put your name on it.<br /> Tom Cliffordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-31919052736569602642014-09-16T16:47:56.292-07:002014-09-16T16:47:56.292-07:00There are good reasons why some people post here a...There are good reasons why some people post here anonymously. There are also some very bad ones.NonAnonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-86643696293614903772014-09-16T16:14:52.587-07:002014-09-16T16:14:52.587-07:00Elaine, this isn't meant to take the place of ...Elaine, this isn't meant to take the place of real journalism. But the rules here are different than in the Tribune and they both work in their own ways.<br /><br />Sometimes people are afraid to say what they really feel. Sure you get some crap, but you also get some raw unadulterated views that you wouldn't get anywhere else otherwise.<br /><br />I happen to know that some council members, city officials and other notable people post here anonymously so it's not just trolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-83572679559378110652014-09-16T15:57:33.366-07:002014-09-16T15:57:33.366-07:00With all due respect, Elaine, we're not real j...With all due respect, Elaine, we're not real journalists, we're blogging and anonymity is part of the medium. So is provocation and off the wall opinions. It's not a news source. Don't like an idea or comment? Refute or ignore. Quite a few posters switch between using their names and anon.<br /><br />Cronkite kept up. Do you remember what a space travel nut he was? He did a broadcast from the old Vomit Comet to try out weightlessness. New things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-793932168753270732014-09-16T15:27:11.144-07:002014-09-16T15:27:11.144-07:00I'll just say one thing: All you ANONYMOUS pos...I'll just say one thing: All you ANONYMOUS posters are cowards. Put your name to what you say. It's easy to be AONNYMOUS when you have no accountability and no one knows who you are. We real journalists never printed letters to the editor with no name attached. Grow up, man up. If you have an opinion, put your name on it. It's why blogging will never take the place of real journalism. Walter Cronkite would roll over in his grave.<br />Elaine LarsenElaine Larsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17607724339451880292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-76405798652013303822014-09-15T22:24:40.596-07:002014-09-15T22:24:40.596-07:00901 You actually think they care? They're thin...901 You actually think they care? They're thinking legacy. Something to be known for other than gross fiscal mismanagement. First the trail is rammed through. Nothing to stop them from making a similar move for a library. A different group of speakers, but same kind of charade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-29815734844698035592014-09-15T21:01:52.785-07:002014-09-15T21:01:52.785-07:00It seems very clear from all the posts on all the ...It seems very clear from all the posts on all the blogs that any support for the new library is rare. This crosses all lines. Pro growth, anti growth, really almost everyone is against it. Still our council seem to insist on this course. I've let them know that the library is out, foget aboud id. I hope all you are too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com