tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post443538728851047123..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Financing City Services Task Force Final Report 3/19/10Fix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-63041023876227307472010-04-17T17:37:03.369-07:002010-04-17T17:37:03.369-07:00Don't they have cheeseburgers in Texas?Don't they have cheeseburgers in Texas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-26996113079273333502010-04-17T08:50:43.334-07:002010-04-17T08:50:43.334-07:00pete shoemaker says the city council is running th...pete shoemaker says the city council is running the city competently and efficiently, and their critics are liars. city council says pete shoemaker's evaluations are unassailable and critics of the task force are liars. what the hell is the complaint? listen to circular back patting and ignore the obvious facts. pay more for less, its the pacifica way. now buy me a cheeseburger!!long lohn curtisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-34086778625091019072010-04-17T07:08:13.160-07:002010-04-17T07:08:13.160-07:00"Why don't you ask the task force or the ..."Why don't you ask the task force or the city council or the city manager or the finance director?"<br /><br />How 'bout a staff report with complete information? Let's start with that!Lionel Emdenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-26880422741333346582010-04-16T18:08:01.378-07:002010-04-16T18:08:01.378-07:00Because he is a frogy and the snakes need to be pr...Because he is a frogy and the snakes need to be protected by the people.<br /><br />I am sorry but in my opinion I strongly believe that when the city form this little committees are always are going to do what they want them to do.<br /><br />That's is why we need new people in Council. We could put a garbage man, a mailmen, a security guy, a Mzzetti employee etc somebody that doesn't have any string attach with the council.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-19372264152285693202010-04-16T16:40:34.029-07:002010-04-16T16:40:34.029-07:00Why was Pete Shoemaker in charge of the committee?...Why was Pete Shoemaker in charge of the committee? He's one of the people most responsible for the mess the city's in.<br /><br />That's like putting George W. Bush in charge of a committee to rein in federal spending.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52507533553066319362010-04-16T16:03:47.496-07:002010-04-16T16:03:47.496-07:00"Where's the other $8 million coming from...<i>"Where's the other $8 million coming from?"</i><br /><br />I'll take Taxes, Tariffs, Tolls, Fees, Levies, Assessments and Duties for 8 million, Alex...Pacifica Truth Policenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-15869353284658840392010-04-16T14:22:58.336-07:002010-04-16T14:22:58.336-07:00Asked and answered.Asked and answered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-64124452692939170002010-04-16T14:21:30.699-07:002010-04-16T14:21:30.699-07:00Why don't you ask the task force or the city c...Why don't you ask the task force or the city council or the city manager or the finance director?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-77992281447985937202010-04-16T14:09:22.154-07:002010-04-16T14:09:22.154-07:00Lionel,
The report estimates a savings of $8.5M o...Lionel,<br /><br />The report estimates a savings of $8.5M over five years via negotiations with labor groups. It's quite an assumption, but I guess they're going to ask really, really nicely to ensure this happens.<br /><br />The report states:<br /><br />"Since the largerst and fastest-growing component of the City's budget is salary and benefits costs, we recommend that the City ask all employee labor groups, in their appropriate negotiations, to make adjustments which will lower these anticpated costs over the next five years. These adjustments comprise a number of possible items (a list is included in the attachments) and may include a freeze on wages and a freeze in the City's contribution rate to retirement benefits. We estimate that these two alone will save about $8.5 million over the five-year span."<br /><br />-Option A: Expenditure and Revenue Adjustments, first paragraphAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-68474560442274250342010-04-16T13:32:37.828-07:002010-04-16T13:32:37.828-07:00Hi Lionel, good question as usual. Based upon a po...Hi Lionel, good question as usual. Based upon a population of $38,500 about $208 from each member of your family? Financed bonds, maybe $400 per family member, or not paid down bonds? Priceless. And, that's why we need to encourage business and develop the properties we can to bring-in needed tax revenue (plus jobs and services).Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-33539924802620611072010-04-16T13:23:51.927-07:002010-04-16T13:23:51.927-07:00I'll pose the same question I posed to the thr...I'll pose the same question I posed to the thread we have going on Riptide regarding this report.<br />If the two ballot measures are forecast to raise $6 million over the five-year planned period, and the city manager forecasts a $14 million shortfall over that same period:<br /><br /> Where's the other $8 million coming from?Lionel Emdenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-26928374075779607752010-04-16T11:15:48.646-07:002010-04-16T11:15:48.646-07:00Anonymous, ugh is right. And, that's about the...Anonymous, ugh is right. And, that's about the way it always is. This 8 year "no growth" city council works their agenda, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the general welfare and "good of the people" of this city. Power and control of a city population without balanced civic economic wisdom, and no vocal regress-- that's about what we've got. Apt observation on your part.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-64217180455271964602010-04-16T11:00:22.942-07:002010-04-16T11:00:22.942-07:00Thank you for your kind words, Kathy.
I suppose, ...Thank you for your kind words, Kathy.<br /><br />I suppose, since Council tasked the Finance Group to come up with the report, they'd pretty much adopt it without much issue.<br /><br />And I realize the money has to come from **somewhere** to close the revenue gap in order to provide us our basic services.<br /><br />What really bothered me was the pre-emptive stance Council took that any criticism of the Task Force Report shouldn't be taken seriously, or even considered at all. They presented a united front that this was the way it was going to be, no questions asked, and that if you **did** ask questions, you were merely trying to score political points.<br /><br />Ugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-29801816959926424212010-04-16T10:13:35.198-07:002010-04-16T10:13:35.198-07:00Anonymous, you are wise beyond your years, and are...Anonymous, you are wise beyond your years, and are to be commended for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. After 8 years, beyond a shadow of a doubt, its clear that the economic plan presented by this city council is regressive: more taxes, more volunteerism, fewer services. <br /><br />The property owner sewer fee next year to fund the collection pipe replacement is going to be a whopper going forward.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-24349956011778987552010-04-16T07:01:10.973-07:002010-04-16T07:01:10.973-07:00I attended the April 12 Council Meeting in which i...I attended the April 12 Council Meeting in which it was voted upon to enact the recommendations in the report.<br /><br />I'm probably pretty naive, but I expected a bit of banter and discussion about the contents of the report, possible alternatives, etc. Boy, was I wrong.<br /><br />Council did only two things:<br /><br />1) effusively praised the three Finance Committee members present for their work<br /><br />2) advised the members to develop "thick skin" and to expect criticism by those who would use the report for political purposes.<br /><br />I specifically recall Nihart and Vreeland going on about #2. As a neutral citizen, I was pretty stunned, because they were basically stating up front that the report ought to be immune to criticism or critique.<br /><br />I don't know about you, but I think many things benefit from close examination, constructive criticism and brainstorming. This report was subject to none of that during the committee meeting and I think it will suffer for it (i.e., the measures won't pass).<br /><br />But, like I said, I'm probably super-naive about this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-69493743934105953012010-04-16T01:21:46.911-07:002010-04-16T01:21:46.911-07:00Thanks Steve, page 6, more smoke and mirrors. The...Thanks Steve, page 6, more smoke and mirrors. The City Council appointed Finance Committee plan to balance the 5 year deficit (a series of taxes to the public):<br />1. Hotel TOT on the ballot 11/2010<br />2. Property owner tax for "public safety" 5/2011<br />3. Revised utilities tax 11/2012<br /><br />Note: how #2 and #3 taxes don't hit until after the 11/2010 election, #1 affects visitors only (although may cut into our Hotel business). Then, don't forget about the property owner $50 million sewer collection pipe replacement cost to property owners 6/2011. <br /><br />This is more of the same "nothing for Pacifica" city council plan to fix it plan. Let the people eat "taxes"! Remember Measure D? Guess city council didn't get the message then. Same year and prior this city council sub-committee Lancelle and Vreeland nixed tax revenue generating quarry development.Kathy Meehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000878422176050692noreply@blogger.com