tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post2620447076843486116..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: "The Rock" AlternativeFix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-90197555679350673712013-10-25T13:38:54.610-07:002013-10-25T13:38:54.610-07:00Bray you lost your credibility on city wages when ...Bray you lost your credibility on city wages when you said you're voting yes on V just to spite Wagner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-16211106820238816622013-10-25T12:30:01.393-07:002013-10-25T12:30:01.393-07:00A boon? Hutch, are you serious? Our share of prope...A boon? Hutch, are you serious? Our share of property taxes is a pittance. Bray's wage cut mantra and your "boon". How'd you two guys miss the Nobel for Econ this year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67675445695573503852013-10-25T12:13:56.457-07:002013-10-25T12:13:56.457-07:00Todd, city employees will not be giving back those...Todd, city employees will not be giving back those generous raises. Beat that drum all you want. Labor is far too important to local politicians for them to ever make those cuts. In fact, we can expect raises to resume any day now. In this town, it's city employees first, taxpayers dead last. For that we can thank this City Council and ourselves for having put them in charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-24652034693324925472013-10-25T12:00:08.736-07:002013-10-25T12:00:08.736-07:00922 Don't bother. Total waste of your time.922 Don't bother. Total waste of your time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67223420733166316102013-10-25T09:22:03.070-07:002013-10-25T09:22:03.070-07:00Hutch, this is your theory only. It has NEVER been...Hutch, this is your theory only. It has NEVER been proven that on the SF Peninsula that new housing here pays more in property taxes than the cost of services they use. The city gets only a tiny percentage of the property taxes generated by new housing. You cannot prove that new houses are "a veritable boon to our local economy," while there are numerous well-researched studies around the country that show exactly the opposite. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-47021859829565816952013-10-25T09:01:26.576-07:002013-10-25T09:01:26.576-07:00Anon @ 7:59, no, 4545 Coast Highway is a 9 story s...Anon @ 7:59, no, 4545 Coast Highway is a 9 story structure with one foundation. The planning department has a large set of blue prints. Please feel free to go take a look. todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-10384865507469932412013-10-25T08:58:05.036-07:002013-10-25T08:58:05.036-07:00Anon @ 9:55 PM says, "And yes, the answer to ...Anon @ 9:55 PM says, "And yes, the answer to Pacifica's financial collapse is visitor-serving businesses like hotels and destination retail."<br /><br />I disagree. A large part of Pacifica's financial ills are wages that reflect the housing bubble from a decade ago. It's well documented that staff et al had pay increases during the revenue growth of the bubble but once it burst compensation didn't burst with it.<br /><br />Sorry. If your revenue is x, then rises to y for a few years and you justifiably take a pay raise, then when y drops back down to x so should your pay. That didn't happen so out of the dust of the housing crisis we are left with boom era wages. <br /><br />todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-19565914169809318802013-10-25T07:59:06.553-07:002013-10-25T07:59:06.553-07:00They are 2 separate buildings with 2 separate foun...They are 2 separate buildings with 2 separate foundations Todd. That's why your buddy John removed your misleading description from the title.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67942530575850773232013-10-25T07:55:42.143-07:002013-10-25T07:55:42.143-07:00@ 955 This is a NIMBY theory only. It has NEVER be...@ 955 This is a NIMBY theory only. It has NEVER been proven that on the SF Peninsula with the highest taxes in the country that building new housing puts more of a strain on services than what it generates in taxes. Yes there's been studies in bum-fuc Texas, but not here. The fact that new owners here pay 7,8, 9, 10 thousand dollars in property tax a year far out weighs any services they use. Add to that sales and other taxes, fees, jobs created, new and increased business and they are a veritable boon to our economy.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-80061247685635540402013-10-24T21:55:54.367-07:002013-10-24T21:55:54.367-07:00Hutch, that opinion @441 which you seem to find so...Hutch, that opinion @441 which you seem to find so problematic is one shared by many who have wrestled with the problem. Based in fact. Your grocer guru is part of Pacifica's very limited, group of basic businesses. A few more bags of groceries, tanks of gas, bargains at Ross, have negligible effect on the city's revenue, but probably a big effect on the bottom-line of the individual business.<br /> Since you mentioned Riptide, so will I. In a similar exchange on there, you recently cited the City of San Mateo as having added housing that more than covered the cost of services. Of course, you overlooked the tax bonanza of Hillsdale Shopping Center. I can assure you it's not overlooked by those who run the City of San Mateo or by its residents and those of surrounding communities. It's been proven over and over that housing alone cannot pay the bills. And, no, I'm not Loeb or Bray or any of your other boogeymen. And yes, the answer to Pacifica's financial collapse is visitor-serving businesses like hotels and destination retail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-53902873832847083072013-10-24T20:25:31.992-07:002013-10-24T20:25:31.992-07:00It's a hill, Todd.
Change Linda Mar to Twin P...It's a hill, Todd.<br /><br />Change Linda Mar to Twin Peaks, and tell us what the difference is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-7238171750083632752013-10-24T19:48:22.647-07:002013-10-24T19:48:22.647-07:00LMAO, good one Dramanon @ 7:11 PM. It's really...LMAO, good one Dramanon @ 7:11 PM. It's really creative to think of building that are side by side and compare them as equal to a tall 9 story structure, very creative.todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-90045723776247941282013-10-24T19:11:54.244-07:002013-10-24T19:11:54.244-07:00No, they're completely separate buildings, jus...No, they're completely separate buildings, just like the proposal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-27564171733455778222013-10-24T16:58:58.198-07:002013-10-24T16:58:58.198-07:00Dramanon @ 4:20 PM, are all those Linda Mar houses...Dramanon @ 4:20 PM, are all those Linda Mar houses stacked on top of each other like the 9 story Rock condo proposal? todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-57932683840977177372013-10-24T16:54:26.246-07:002013-10-24T16:54:26.246-07:004:20 LOL, that makes too much sense. Don't thi...4:20 LOL, that makes too much sense. Don't think he'll get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-69127506051624996682013-10-24T16:42:50.612-07:002013-10-24T16:42:50.612-07:00If 2000 1-story houses are stacked on top of 3000 ...If 2000 1-story houses are stacked on top of 3000 2-story houses, then there are at least 2000 3-story buildings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-40159650372657824262013-10-24T16:41:16.557-07:002013-10-24T16:41:16.557-07:00Wow it's an honor to have his highness king Pe...Wow it's an honor to have his highness king Peter Loeb the archbishop of anti-development here. Yes that's him at 2:39. He said the exact same poop crap over on Riptide. Where was your business degree from again Peter? Funny, I talked to the owner of Oceana Market who said the exact opposite. If Pacifica increases it's population he would get more business, pay more taxes and hire more employees. I think I believe him over you.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-70101387862536873962013-10-24T16:20:42.673-07:002013-10-24T16:20:42.673-07:00Let's say there are 3000 2-story houses and 20...Let's say there are 3000 2-story houses and 2000 1-story houses in Linda Mar. Does that make Linda Mar an 8000-story tall development?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-77074990911189822632013-10-24T15:53:28.287-07:002013-10-24T15:53:28.287-07:00Is the owner still planning on moving forward with...Is the owner still planning on moving forward with the 9 story condo proposal? Does anyone know? <br /><br />As far as the planning commission goes at least 3 brought up questions about the projects financial viability. This commission could have already zapped itself down to 4 members if the proposal does move forward. <br /><br />Hopefully the owner will see the head ache of this parcel and come up with something much more modest and commercial. Or better yet just cut his loses.<br /><br />It will be interesting to see what's next for THE ROCK-K-K-K-k-k-k-k (simulated echo). todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-91030620648791397142013-10-24T14:39:38.731-07:002013-10-24T14:39:38.731-07:00933 More residents suck up more services. The cost...933 More residents suck up more services. The cost of those services is out of control. Those additional residents do spend money, but because we have only the most basic retail, they spend their money elsewhere. This will not change. Housing without substantial retail does not break even. Best use we can make of the scraps left for development is visitor-serving high return projects like hotels. Condos that can become vacation rentals also make sense. Hotels and vacation rentals bring in the hefty bonus of that TOT plus the incidental spending around town. Hotels also create a few permanent jobs. Visit, spend, go home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-7196479678036265212013-10-24T14:11:12.640-07:002013-10-24T14:11:12.640-07:00The Planning Commission is a very sore subject!The Planning Commission is a very sore subject!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-58838516041858472132013-10-24T13:14:13.022-07:002013-10-24T13:14:13.022-07:00Let the Planning Commission and the Planning Depar...Let the Planning Commission and the Planning Department do their jobs. They'll take care of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-36156721689939842002013-10-24T11:24:40.384-07:002013-10-24T11:24:40.384-07:00Bray, can you please list your building resume.
P...Bray, can you please list your building resume.<br /><br />Please do not include Lego's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-64472816029956169612013-10-24T11:09:23.184-07:002013-10-24T11:09:23.184-07:00Obstructionists who instinctively oppose any and a...Obstructionists who instinctively oppose any and all projects are the cause of our financial woes. The fact that they then try to blame the problems that they've caused on city workers is shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-26013423976878621352013-10-24T10:41:45.340-07:002013-10-24T10:41:45.340-07:00The site is unbuildable for a profit project like ...The site is unbuildable for a profit project like housing or hotel, it requires too much infrastructure. It's a raw piece of granite. Unfortunately the owner bought a white elephant in 2003. That and he's been listening to the wrong people in town. The Chamber gets a lot of money people in trouble with the encouragement they give regarding Pacifica. The quarry and the 55 acre site opposite the quarry are great examples of Chamber meddling and now The Rock. Too bad, but the Chamber does waste a lot of money peoples time, and money.todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.com