tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post5647909578213249077..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: Reminder Planning Commission meeting, today Monday, July 20, 2015Fix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-8245158586081364112015-07-23T23:00:55.318-07:002015-07-23T23:00:55.318-07:00619, no, "toxic" tricks, are the several...619, no, "toxic" tricks, are the several decades honed expertise of NIMBIES, in this City and allied NIMBY organizations in this region. <br /><br />And related to toxic tricks, you say "... something both side do so well"? No, that's an "everybody is doing it" variant from the NIMBY propaganda handbook intended to neutralize NIMBY toxicity. Been there. <br /><br />From the same handbook, you say "it no longer matters who wins". No, it matters who wins City Council elections. City Council majority carries the votes, sometimes these are important votes that affect the destiny of this City: 3-2 carries votes; 4-1 does not. (The variant of "it really doesn't matter" is false, potentially designed to neutralize opposition to warm and fuzzy NIMBIES who have a proven anti-progress track record.)Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-25621291058413206152015-07-23T18:19:42.910-07:002015-07-23T18:19:42.910-07:00Get real! Next election will have enough dirt and ...Get real! Next election will have enough dirt and misinformation for all--and that's just the Presidential race. Pacifica will set a new record for toxic, something both sides do so well. The dirty secret? In Pacifica, it no longer matters who wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-65832300695003658732015-07-23T17:56:47.986-07:002015-07-23T17:56:47.986-07:00343, 429, 419, pro growth, and pro growth attitude...343, 429, 419, pro growth, and pro growth attitudes are good and needed to rebuild this deficient City (caused by the Gang of No). <br />And Gang of No, do you even care if there is a City. If so, where have you been for 30+ years? <br /><br />I stand by my comment. And your name is? <br />PS: My observation, NIMBIES ran a dirty, misinformation 11/14 campaign. (No surprise, that's how you roll).Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-20588825343137975302015-07-23T16:29:21.477-07:002015-07-23T16:29:21.477-07:00343 Kind of like the Democrats praying that Donald...343 Kind of like the Democrats praying that Donald Trump runs. Oh, yessss! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-34297984397729340032015-07-23T16:19:45.607-07:002015-07-23T16:19:45.607-07:00129 No one disputes Pacifica is a city. A suburban...129 No one disputes Pacifica is a city. A suburban city with character that can alternate between rural, semi-rural, and suburban. Rather doubt that anyone disputes this city needs services since we all depend on them. That this city has no hope of being able to pay for them or the staff to provide them becomes clearer every day as every opportunity is wasted and our debt burden grows. My god, we've even been bamboozled into accepting almost 5 million dollars as "unaccounted". By all means, let's keep the focus on pissing matches, vitriol and food trucks because an honest, dispassionate look at the scraps on our table is unbearable. We'll go out with a whimper and a slur, incapable of self-governance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-73411153116760858472015-07-23T15:43:57.343-07:002015-07-23T15:43:57.343-07:00These are the type of comments you can point to in...These are the type of comments you can point to in the upcoming 2016 council race in order to illustrate the attitudes of the pro growth supports. <br /><br />Then those supporters will squawk about a dirty campaign which is precious since these are their own comments they are proudly and publicly making on this blog. Why is it a dirty trick to send potential voters to this site to see your comments? Don't you stand behind your words?<br /><br />I beg the denizens of Fix Pacifica to lend their endorsements again next year. That went so well last time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-3723157100987435972015-07-23T13:29:17.927-07:002015-07-23T13:29:17.927-07:0038,000 people make a CITY. A city requires Fire De...38,000 people make a CITY. A city requires Fire Departments, Police Departments, City Government Offices, Sewage Treatment plants, road repair, clean water, a reliable energy system, constant maintenance and MONEY to run it all.<br />NOBIES are slowly but surely killing Pacifica in order to maintain their own selfish "I got mine" lifestyles which they expect taxpayers to under-write.<br />They are faux-enviros, know nothing about running a city and believe they are the smartest people in the room.<br />Keep fighting back Council (majority). It's the bottom of the ninth with a full count and we are in danger of losing our city. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-71302150469532090732015-07-23T13:26:18.081-07:002015-07-23T13:26:18.081-07:00You're welcome 1249.You're welcome 1249.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-31336652864855751212015-07-23T13:19:50.667-07:002015-07-23T13:19:50.667-07:00^^^
1249, are you the same Anonymous who clogged-u...^^^<br />1249, are you the same Anonymous who clogged-up the spam folder last night?<br />Definition <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/name-calling" rel="nofollow">name-calling</a>. Keep in mind, stating facts and describing a history of what "is" is not name calling, whereas purposefully abusive distraction, deflection and unfair labeling may be name calling. <br /><br />NIMBIES want the veneer scraped off their <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/house+of+cards" rel="nofollow">house of cards</a>, come on down.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-9046121058174888762015-07-23T12:49:15.462-07:002015-07-23T12:49:15.462-07:00Thank you 12:08 for your rational discussion of th...Thank you 12:08 for your rational discussion of the subject. No invective, no name-calling, just talking about Pacifica as a suburban community with both urban and rural qualities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-18654477235367628542015-07-23T12:08:55.835-07:002015-07-23T12:08:55.835-07:00My neighborhood was also described as semi-rural i...My neighborhood was also described as semi-rural in the 80s. We actually had two cows wander up the street one afternoon in the late 90s from a field on Peralta. These days, from my house I can see horses in that field, planted fields, greenhouses, the ocean, no industry, tree-covered hillsides, a couple of school sites, and lots of homes. Deer, skunks, raccoons are often seen. No Russia. Not too far away is a 1950s-style smallish, partially empty, shopping center and a large county park. Pacifica is a suburb of San Francisco. A mixed use community within commuting distance of a job center. Suburbs can be outlying neighborhoods of the urban center, a separately incorporated city, or, an unincorporated area. Within a suburb, especially one made up of distinctly separate neighborhoods like Pacifica, urban and rural characteristics can and do co-exist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-91862440959115022482015-07-23T03:36:24.597-07:002015-07-23T03:36:24.597-07:00Semi rural is Half Moon Bay which has working farm...Semi rural is Half Moon Bay which has working farms. Pacifica is almost built up. Only a couple buildable parcels left. <br /><br />Maybe you Should speak to people who have lived here since Pacifica had 90 people.<br /><br />Pacificas only cash crops are pot and meth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-79302052416537065252015-07-22T23:10:41.991-07:002015-07-22T23:10:41.991-07:00How about "semi-rural?" That's the w...How about "semi-rural?" That's the way my neighborhood was described when I bought my house in the 90's.Steve Sinainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-77464693149564480612015-07-22T20:32:53.004-07:002015-07-22T20:32:53.004-07:00751, it's time for you NIMBIES to stop lying t...751, it's time for you NIMBIES to stop lying to yourselves, to your friends, to those who you can indoctrinate, and to the City.<br />At the same time, you call moderate people who understand the need this city has for survival, and to thrive through a balanced City economy and reasonable progress "extremists". What a lame joke from you!<br /><br />So where is the proof that this City is "rural", rather than part of a larger regional "urban" environment. Google and government definition exists, go for it.<br />And 6th request. Let us know what economic and infrastructure progress you will support in this City.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-28945405582151558302015-07-22T19:51:04.056-07:002015-07-22T19:51:04.056-07:00The position of some people here that Pacifica is ...The position of some people here that Pacifica is appropriately described as "urban" illustrates the gulf between the few on this blog and the many who live and vote here. Ask some random people at Safeway or the beach or anywhere else in town if they think of Pacifica as urban. I doubt you will find many people besides Fix Pacifica extremists who agree with that description.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-20731025650463421702015-07-22T19:44:25.377-07:002015-07-22T19:44:25.377-07:00614, once again you offer no poof to counter your ...614, once again you offer no poof to counter your cult "ignorance"-- or your psychological journey distraction into "inconsistent belief" (your words).<br />The rural vs. urban conversation began with NIMBY or NIMBIES defending comments made by Peter Loeb on Riptide: his claim that this City is rural. You or some of you, defended him by saying he would never say that.<br /><br />I said call him. You or some of you may have done that, or not. Then the NIMBY switcheroo began.<br />Now, without proof, you claim this city is "rural". Yet, the quick links I provided were from the US Government, plus a definition of "rural" (meaning country).<br />That said, you have provided no proof against "urban" evidence to support your second opinion that this City is "rural" The "alternative" you have provided is attitude. Plenty of attitude, zero credibility. Hence, the City is as described: urban.<br /><br />559, the numbers prove the 11/14 City Council election had one too many progress candidates, And even though some of you ran a misinformation and nasty election, there was no mandate to NOT fix outstanding City economic and infrastructure problems.<br />(BTW, your repeated juvenile "split pants" comment says more about you than it does anyone else.)Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-46296022471842759852015-07-22T18:14:46.654-07:002015-07-22T18:14:46.654-07:00It's not so much the ignorance on public displ...It's not so much the ignorance on public display here, it's the doubling down on that ignorance that's baffling.<br /><br />Pacifica is an urban city? My god. Give it a rest, lady. You're completely wrong and it's obvious you don't have a clue what you're talking about.<br /><br /><i><br />The more committed we are to a certain opinion, the less likely we are to relinquish it, even if confronted with massive contradictory evidence. The theory of cognitive dissonance, originally developed by psychologist Leon Festinger, deals precisely with those feelings of discomfort that people experience when presented with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. Multiple studies show that to relive cognitive dissonance, in many cases, in stead of acknowledging an error in judgment, people tend for reformulate their views in a new way that justifies their old opinions.<br />--Mario Livio</i><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-74786610202237416332015-07-22T17:59:56.873-07:002015-07-22T17:59:56.873-07:00"If you use the word 'rural' to descr..."If you use the word 'rural' to describe any city in the Bay Area, you're an indoctrinated cult member!"<br /><br />*splits pants*<br /><br />L-O-L. What a dumb hill to choose to die on. No wonder this supporter's crew is slowly getting voted out. They had their chance, but it turns out the group's just a little too crazy to be seated at the adult table.it's true because I said sonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-61356859539327213372015-07-22T17:57:31.613-07:002015-07-22T17:57:31.613-07:00514, seriously it doesn't matter what you thin...514, seriously it doesn't matter what you think, or if you think, unless you can prove cities located in metropolitan regional areas are not urban.<br />Keep in mind we're talking about cities, not towns; not country, or unincorporated areas with populations of less than 2,500.<br />I know, it's a NIMBY dream to "live in our neighborhoods" with all the disadvantages of not being a City. We heard a lot about that attempted promotion a few years ago.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-67076732447239683962015-07-22T17:14:15.879-07:002015-07-22T17:14:15.879-07:00I think a city of 40,000 population that is mostly...I think a city of 40,000 population that is mostly residential with very little commercial development and in which the majority of land is open space is definitely not urban. Suburban, yes. Pacifica has more in common with Half Moon Bay than it does San Francisco. Is Half Moon Bay urban because it's a city in metropolitan San Francisco Bay area? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-54134166490058433212015-07-22T16:40:43.166-07:002015-07-22T16:40:43.166-07:004:15
I find it amazing payroll checks are still c...4:15<br /><br />I find it amazing payroll checks are still clearing.<br /><br />The city should consider themselves lucky they still have money in the postage meter.<br /><br />They are spending like mad, and I doubt seriously they can afford our next coming recession or a very strong el nino winter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-74875468201790719352015-07-22T16:15:04.180-07:002015-07-22T16:15:04.180-07:00359, that sounds about right. About the cost of tw...359, that sounds about right. About the cost of two of the many cheap studies on the City bookshelves. And if they could get any reimbursement elsewhere (from other government sources), no doubt they did.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-88988609851687629352015-07-22T16:08:56.146-07:002015-07-22T16:08:56.146-07:00119, do you think a CITY in metropolitan San Franc...119, do you think a CITY in metropolitan San Francisco Bay area us rural. Against fact, State regulation and logic, do you really believe that? <br />Or is your responsive cult belief verbiage just from a page of NIMBY doctrine?<br /><br />5th request. Let us know what economic and infrastructure progress you will support in this City.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-65786087369696127132015-07-22T15:59:22.137-07:002015-07-22T15:59:22.137-07:00Kathy
The city has to kick in some money. I don&#...Kathy<br /><br />The city has to kick in some money. I don't remember how much it was a long time ago.<br /><br />I am thinking $50,000 to $80,000.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-50052149512734900832015-07-22T15:51:21.011-07:002015-07-22T15:51:21.011-07:00257, no, you said $5.5 million was coming from the...257, no, you said $5.5 million was coming from the City General Fund, so that information from you was incorrect, remember?<br />And, the Colt property contract is an option for the City to purchase, while meantime the City obtains and secures grants and government funding. <br />The $350,000 General Fund you now mention from "air data", may also be reimbursable from outside City sources. (Since this is your claim, maybe verify your information with the City, good luck). <br /> <br />Did you support quarry economic redevelopment in 2003 and 2006? Either of those projects would have brought important and needed development revenue into this city. Not developing next door Mori Point prior was also a loss for this city, but it was the result of another ol' NIMBY trick: delay, block, bankrupt the developer. Nothing new, the City loses.Kathy Meehnoreply@blogger.com