tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post1993622270501322963..comments2023-11-28T20:40:14.193-08:00Comments on Fix Pacifica: For those who have been dreaming about roundaboutsFix Pacificahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14451072441256706977noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-34790425330678093502013-10-07T21:54:23.702-07:002013-10-07T21:54:23.702-07:00814 Got rid of the open space committee? Must of b...814 Got rid of the open space committee? Must of been accidental. Cheap thrills at this point. 60% of the town is dedicated to open space. Scraps left. Stick a fork in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-23849533230100086902013-10-07T21:44:01.620-07:002013-10-07T21:44:01.620-07:00908 Damn good question. The vote I recall they too...908 Damn good question. The vote I recall they took, in June 2012, was on what kind of median they wanted to request and to place the project in the funding queue with the SMC TA. O'Neill and Ervin were not yet on council. Throughout the meeting during which these votes were taken, the city manager and city attorney and several councilmembers stated repeatedly that the issues being voted on did not include or signify project approval. <br />During campaign interviews prior to the November 2012 election, none of the winning candidates (Ervin, Nihart, O'Neill) stated support for the widening. All took the safe and political approach...something's gotta be done, explore all alternatives, blahblahblah. As I recall, Nihart played it so safe she didn't respond to the Trib's candidate questionnaire at all. Stone is the only current councilmember who has clearly and publicly supported the widening. Oh, and former-councilmember Pete DeJarnatt was always vocal in his support, he voted for funding, but balked at the 'putting the cart before the horse' aspect of the median-choice vote. Digre opposed.<br /><br />Anyone have reliable, public record info to the contrary? Can't help but think that a clear and official statement of project support from our electd representatives would help the cause. Of course, that would require a higher and politically riskier public profile on the issue, wouldn't it? Shyness or weaslely calculation, they need to get over it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-43907217824922777042013-10-07T21:08:37.205-07:002013-10-07T21:08:37.205-07:00Please show where the council voted to move forwar...Please show where the council voted to move forward on the highway widening. The city attorney says the council never did that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-9769686271380757722013-10-07T20:14:25.861-07:002013-10-07T20:14:25.861-07:00You mean the same Mary Ann, Karen and Len that got...You mean the same Mary Ann, Karen and Len that got rid of the open space committee? Voted to move forward on the highway widening? Are they the ones you say are in the enviros pocket?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-576773623875055092013-10-07T18:51:05.199-07:002013-10-07T18:51:05.199-07:00Cynthia, couldn't agree more.Cynthia, couldn't agree more. todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-2236782960771545132013-10-07T16:24:25.096-07:002013-10-07T16:24:25.096-07:004:02
Take a look who endorced Mary Ann and Karen ...4:02<br /><br />Take a look who endorced Mary Ann and Karen Ervin. The same people who helped Sue and Rich Campbell. In fact alot of the same people endorced Rich, Mary and Karen.<br /><br />The council just has different no growth hippies on board.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-82461230218837234712013-10-07T16:02:07.036-07:002013-10-07T16:02:07.036-07:00Ian, you don't get it that people have realize...Ian, you don't get it that people have realized since 2006 that we must allow more development. Opinions have changed. A developer would not have to spend a lot of money to convince us. We are convinced that the old way of the environment is our economy doesn't work. And if you want proof just look to Rich Campbells huge loss or Sue Digre who was skipped over for Mayor by council. Two environmental icons who are now marginalized. Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-6554434581288392532013-10-07T15:45:28.974-07:002013-10-07T15:45:28.974-07:002:01
Otherwise you lose credibility!2:01<br /><br />Otherwise you lose credibility!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-52076562800351413992013-10-07T14:01:40.654-07:002013-10-07T14:01:40.654-07:00Whether someone chooses to post their name or not,...Whether someone chooses to post their name or not, its still name calling. I don't care if you agree or disagree with what someone has posted, under their own name or not. You reduce your personal capital every time you resort to name calling.Cynthia Montaneznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-3665761524102863692013-10-06T23:18:05.326-07:002013-10-06T23:18:05.326-07:00Yet another anonymous contributer complains, "...Yet another anonymous contributer complains, "Todd, your constant comparison to Nazis is annoying and childish. I suspect that our blogmasters continue to condone this because it makes you look childish."<br /><br />Whether you are a Rantanon, Dramanon, Brownshirtanon or Bigotanon, you are still without identity so unlike the Dramanon comment above, there is no childish name calling. <br /><br />todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-75191748410357200322013-10-06T22:26:26.235-07:002013-10-06T22:26:26.235-07:00Equating a few silly land use issues to the attemp...Equating a few silly land use issues to the attempted extermination of an entire race of people is par for the course with the gang of no. They are the Fox News of Pacifica.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-59292633514606225912013-10-06T18:45:00.362-07:002013-10-06T18:45:00.362-07:005:08
Nah punish a child a few times and they get ...5:08<br /><br />Nah punish a child a few times and they get the message. This guy thinks he is a local villain.<br /><br />Too much time on his hands, with little to actually do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-86891069829789437252013-10-06T17:08:01.809-07:002013-10-06T17:08:01.809-07:00Todd, your constant comparison to Nazis is annoyin...Todd, your constant comparison to Nazis is annoying and childish. I suspect that our blogmasters continue to condone this because it makes you look childish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-7304965639769828402013-10-06T14:19:35.782-07:002013-10-06T14:19:35.782-07:00Hutch, the problem with the appointment is that Co...Hutch, the problem with the appointment is that Council hasn't rejected the environmental candidate or the ideology. They seem to be choosing government by coalition and I suspect there's really not much difference between them. Not what I voted for. And, clearly, not what this town needs to move forward. Nimbyism in all its forms is in this town's DNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-21805435468848348402013-10-06T14:07:38.586-07:002013-10-06T14:07:38.586-07:00Peebles dodged a disaster here and he knows it. Lu...Peebles dodged a disaster here and he knows it. Luck. He's got it. Pacifica is safe once again, under the dome of stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-69993854256925682332013-10-06T14:00:33.671-07:002013-10-06T14:00:33.671-07:00Dreams die hard. The quarry's role as an econo...Dreams die hard. The quarry's role as an economic engine for this town has always been more fiction than fact. But it sure works well as a political issue. How would we be able to sort out the crowd without it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-4796132704275301732013-10-06T12:41:19.791-07:002013-10-06T12:41:19.791-07:00Brownshirtanon @ 11:48 AM, spinners are as spinner...Brownshirtanon @ 11:48 AM, spinners are as spinners do and beyond speaking ones mind openly, I see a lot of spinning coming from you! If you are so right... use your own identity. OOPS but that would require courage. todd brayhttp://fixpacifica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-85690751443250635212013-10-06T12:36:27.236-07:002013-10-06T12:36:27.236-07:00Postage stamp size development in the dreaded quar...Postage stamp size development in the dreaded quarry would be acceptable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-3085354198396969642013-10-06T11:48:57.553-07:002013-10-06T11:48:57.553-07:00I guess if another developer could spend that much...I guess if another developer could spend that much they would have a shot, but it would be cheaper to just downsize the project to the point that most of us would want it.<br /><br />More spin from the "gang of no"<br /><br />Haven't you people done enough to bankrupt the town.<br /><br />Please go away!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-34015519902494141602013-10-06T10:37:09.153-07:002013-10-06T10:37:09.153-07:00Sorry Ian, there is no size that anyone one of Pac...Sorry Ian, there is no size that anyone one of Pacfica's Environmental Family would accept. The quarry plan was developed through the charette process and the largest number of participants are the very same people that led the No on L campaign. They vetted it, they designed it, they decided against it from day one. I was there, I was involved, and it happened. The mix and size of the housing units proposed was to balance the community, from apartments to live-work units to townhomes to single family homes. it was to balance the community and provide for all income levels. You reduce the size to 100 single family homes, and you don't get a socio-economic mix that is vital to a new community. The plan is now used as teaching tool for new urbanism classes on "what could have been". The quarry is an environmental nightmare that would have taken 5 years to get through all the entitlements and all the State Mining Board mandated clean-up and repair issues. It would have taken another 5 to 7 years to build and the developer would have been responsible for the traffic mitigation plan. But, that's old news. Its a very dead horse, let the bones turn to dust and leave it be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-68015970314912032202013-10-06T09:50:42.290-07:002013-10-06T09:50:42.290-07:00Yes, measure L was pretty close, losing by about 4...Yes, measure L was pretty close, losing by about 400 votes. But remember that Peebles spent $1.3 million to lose that election, which dwarfs all other campaigns in Pacifica's history, outspending the No on L campaign 500 to 1. I guess if another developer could spend that much they would have a shot, but it would be cheaper to just downsize the project to the point that most of us would want it.Ian Butlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-65977784702218083622013-10-06T08:57:06.218-07:002013-10-06T08:57:06.218-07:00Anon 939, I was talking about voters rejecting an ...Anon 939, I was talking about voters rejecting an environmental candidate as a city leader, not the council appointing one on a commission. That's a big difference.Hutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-35926739972017833432013-10-06T08:27:46.382-07:002013-10-06T08:27:46.382-07:00I wonder what happens to the poison pill in the qu...I wonder what happens to the poison pill in the quarry now that redevelopment agencies and zones are gone?<br /><br />Remember who put in the poison pill in the quarry? Ians, good buddy Peter Loeb.<br /><br />Look at the people who indorsed Mary Ann and Ervin, the very same people who bankrupted the city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-14840593262107538582013-10-05T23:50:20.936-07:002013-10-05T23:50:20.936-07:00Measure L 7,180 yes 7,689 no
Pretty friggin clos...Measure L 7,180 yes 7,689 no<br /><br />Pretty friggin close. It would pass today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7481238059942383326.post-56430679044588817972013-10-05T23:09:31.504-07:002013-10-05T23:09:31.504-07:00Hutch, you mean Richie Campbell the EPA hippie law...Hutch, you mean Richie Campbell the EPA hippie lawyer reappointed to the PC by the all new oh-so-different City Council? That Richie Campbell?<br />Pacifica has Nimby DNA. It shows up in every election. People that voted for Campbell also voted for Nihart and Ervin. Why do you think Nimbys find them acceptable? Thank God for O'Neill's name recognition at the polls.<br /><br />Peebles couldn't buy a victory. He got closer than Trammell Crow, but it was a clear loss. You think Pacifica has learned its lesson, wants to mend its way and welcome development? Nah. Look at what's happening at Beach Blvd. What a farce. This council blithely goes ahead with a library and council chamber without even attempting to see if a developer will want the whole parcel or nothing at all. What they've done is what this town always does. They've saved another prime parcel from development. Quarry, Beach Blvd, the poop pit, and others. It's in the DNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com